Rifleman Archive
Thread: Fear not my brethren, our FOTM status will leave us soon.
And all this im l337 with my 80% 40% stun armor and mad buffs,dope,&food is another way of saying IM A COWARD WHO DOESNT LIKE TO GET HURT AND IM SCARED OF DYING.
Try PvPing in faction armor for real fun and challenge... GASP! what? CHALLENGE!? Oh sorry that must scare you more than taking damage. Why take all the fun out of your game with this nonsence? What ever happened to wanting sport? Ughhh yet another reason this game is gonna get dropped by a bad habit.
Man your type is whats wrong with this game...
PyscoJuggalo wrote:
People are finally looking for a counter to CM & Rifleman well one template is a counter to both.
Master Fencer/Doctor, with this you get great defence, the wonderful State Heals, and blind.
Not only that but fencers have a accuracy multiplyer to hitting us, it is all just a matter of time for the nerf herders and FOTM's to see this mighty combo and leave us alone and we can goback to our days of debauchery and boozing
Now the philosophy of this combo is not a quick death, no it's a slow painful deathfor your enemy.(I wasted half of the condition of my Jawa Rifle on this guy!!! WTGF without the G!!!!!!!)
Message Edited by PyscoJuggalo on 04-21-2004 01:37 AM
Just scanning forums bored during downtime.
and swords doc is also good state heals, disease and poison heals, and we target your mind which if u using a major t21 is already taking hits of your ham costs alone im currently 8-2 up vs rm/cm using this template.
as for krayts yeah your right we solo em regulary also elders or anything else in game we choose, have come across nothing that has 100% kinetic and blast resists (well nothing worth killing anyway).
PVP wise fencer is better option stun dmg and blind dizzy kd, swords suck vs other melee profs or pistoleer using bh pistols aslo with a geo and blind shot.
Itreh Wirne
MD/Mswords
Eclipse
I'm not crazy about that plan, because you still have more than enough points left to stack defenses on from another profession like one of the melee professions. Rifle is different than carbine and pistol in that you can't get better with it from running up the bounty hunter or smuggler trees... that's true, but despite that, you still need to be toned down a tad. Perhaps defence, speed and damage can remain as they are, and you just get really bad accuracy at all but optimal range and bad accuracy whilest moving. That would leave you as very lethal snipers... quite realistic. Yeah, that's it... great accuracy while stationary at ideal range... better if prone. Really poor accuracy at other ranges, and while moving. If you think that can't be done... play commando for a while.
PyscoJuggalo wrote:
Rebelinformant wrote:
Rifleman has the best speed and damage for a ranged class in a game, you guys want to keep your speed, so youll have to sacrifice something i guess. I say you either get a 3.0 speed cap and keep your damage, or have your 1.0 speed and get rid of your heavy damage. I think personally that pistoleers should get 1.0, carbineers should get 2.0, and rifleman should get 3.0. That would be the easiest way to balence the ranged professions
Bah we could give up our defence, Highest of all ranged professions- So we keep our speed and Damage and give up our defence, sounds good to me
Gimperial666 wrote:
I hope mister fencer/doc PvPs in a group... Cuz all it takes is 3 people who know what theyre doing and your dead.... I dont even think about PvPing by myself... unless its duels and whatnot. Even as a master-swordsman/Master-riffles Im good in PvP and can take anyone in a fair fight...but hoping for a fair fight for your template to work isnt going to make it happen. I die...big deal...
And all this im l337 with my 80% 40% stun armor and mad buffs,dope,&food is another way of saying IM A COWARD WHO DOESNT LIKE TO GET HURT AND IM SCARED OF DYING.
Try PvPing in faction armor for real fun and challenge... GASP! what? CHALLENGE!? Oh sorry that must scare you more than taking damage. Why take all the fun out of your game with this nonsence? What ever happened to wanting sport? Ughhh yet another reason this game is gonna get dropped by a bad habit.
Lol! Try being a Wookiee that hates armor! Never gonna wear it, having plenty of fun in PvP without it thanks.
if you guys gave up your defense that would be fine with me, then i could KD/Dizzy you with fire knockdown and not even worry about getting strafe shot 2 spammed
PyscoJuggalo wrote:
Rebelinformant wrote:
Rifleman has the best speed and damage for a ranged class in a game, you guys want to keep your speed, so youll have to sacrifice something i guess. I say you either get a 3.0 speed cap and keep your damage, or have your 1.0 speed and get rid of your heavy damage. I think personally that pistoleers should get 1.0, carbineers should get 2.0, and rifleman should get 3.0. That would be the easiest way to balence the ranged professions
Bah we could give up our defence, Highest of all ranged professions- So we keep our speed and Damage and give up our defence, sounds good to me
Rebelinformant wrote:
if you guys gave up your defense that would be fine with me, then i could KD/Dizzy you with fire knockdown and not even worry about getting strafe shot 2 spammed
PyscoJuggalo wrote:
Rebelinformant wrote:
Rifleman has the best speed and damage for a ranged class in a game, you guys want to keep your speed, so youll have to sacrifice something i guess. I say you either get a 3.0 speed cap and keep your damage, or have your 1.0 speed and get rid of your heavy damage. I think personally that pistoleers should get 1.0, carbineers should get 2.0, and rifleman should get 3.0. That would be the easiest way to balence the ranged professions
Bah we could give up our defence, Highest of all ranged professions- So we keep our speed and Damage and give up our defence, sounds good to me
Not with KD food silly Hobit
It's nice that the developers thought it was a good Idea to negate Skill Point useage by making Food and Armor more important then the profession you choose.
Well your talking "supress fire" for the KD right? Then you could do it.......
Oh man, this must be about theworst Argumentation I have heard ever ...
>"Even if you were an imperial with an AT-ST doing Mokk missions on Dantooine, it would take you about 4 >hours to make 1 million credits. One Armorsmith bragged about how he made 100 million credits in one day by >selling high-end composite armor for about 3 million asetto a guild of 30.
It would take you only 4hours to make a million and you think that is *long* ? It should take 4 days.
While I also agree that the compo is ridiculously overpriced,I know a few armoursmiths and what do you think, how long did it take him to actually get the ressources for 30 sets pieces of High-end compo and craft them ?
Frankly, it by far too easy to gain ridiculous amounts of money by just grinding combat missions.
UWSkeletor wrote:
I think I could take a doc/fencer. Nothing is stopping me from wearing the same 40% stun armor and 40% PSG, which will stop even more damage from the fencer.I'd intimidate and stun him, thenI'd put a bunch of poisons/diseases on him with my pikes(note - dodge does not stop states or dots like poison/disease), which would force him to waste time curing them all, and I could keep this up trying to get the dizzy+kd on him, at which point I could switch to my jawa ion rifle to finish him off. And if I was really uber leet I'd have some kind of krayt jawa rifle with huge damage, or some looted jawa that has a mind fire or something like that. But you would not be able to sit in Theed for hours, trust me. It would take a group of maybe3 to kill you. 2 rifleman headshotting you and one tkm headhitting you or trying to dizzy +kd you, not to mention making sure you are intimidated, stunned, and blinded.
Also, it seems they have fixed the shifting stats thing for PSG's by adding in vulnerabilities to them, which is unfortunate because Kinetic was a vulnerability on mine, so a TKM just knocked me down and pummeled my mind. Which could be another problem for you, if a TKM lands a dizzy+kd and pummels your mind, even with 80% kinetic resists I think their dps still outdoes the other melee professions. I believe Antares has a post on that somewhere. Not to mention if they get a hold of the new knucklers their damage will increase.
But, I'd agree that a fencer/doc is a very formiddable opponent, and would probably be one of the better combinations. Although, I think a rifleman/doc would do better since they can put out much more damage, and with the same set of armor and buffs the rifleman/doc would be able to ride out that dizzy+kd, or try to cure it with the doctor skills.
Well, I faced a fencer/doc last night, and I'm going to have to apologize for my brash statements above. Fencer/doc is indeed an awesome combo. Our duel was an epic one. I had my 37% stun armor with a 30-somethint% PSG on, so he could hardly touch me...unfortunately he had about the same on. I started off hitting him with all of my dot's from my pikes, but he would just cure the poisons right away. So then I'd try to intimidate/stun him with my dot pikes, then run back and try and headshot him with my jawa...another failure. He'd just cure the intimidate and stun, and then I couldn't hit him. The battle lasted forever, since he couldn't do enough damage to me to dent through my armor, and I was just hoping he'd run out of cure poison packs. Eventually my imperial PSG wore out, and he started to do some damage to me. He also hit me with a mind poison dot from some weapon. He eventually whittled me down to 1 mind, which at this point I decided I'd try to avoid him and hopefully wait out the poison, so I began to run circles around some kind of fountain so he couldn't hit me....well, he got mad after a minute or so of this, since it was just a duel..haha.
I kind of felt bad for delaying the inevitable, but I don't really like to lose. Anyway, I burst ran away, and he ended the duel and was kind of mad that I'd do that. I apologized and said if it made him feel any better he won, since there was really nothing I could do that I could think of to beat him. Sad thing was he was very new to the dr. profession, and he was still dominating. I had watched him duel several other templates before me, and at least I can say I lasted the longest against him. So 1 vs 1, I'd say yes a fencer/doc is awesome. I'm still not sure how well they'd do 3 vs 1,but it's definitely an awesome template.
UWSkeletor wrote:
UWSkeletor wrote:
I think I could take a doc/fencer. Nothing is stopping me from wearing the same 40% stun armor and 40% PSG, which will stop even more damage from the fencer.I'd intimidate and stun him, thenI'd put a bunch of poisons/diseases on him with my pikes(note - dodge does not stop states or dots like poison/disease), which would force him to waste time curing them all, and I could keep this up trying to get the dizzy+kd on him, at which point I could switch to my jawa ion rifle to finish him off. And if I was really uber leet I'd have some kind of krayt jawa rifle with huge damage, or some looted jawa that has a mind fire or something like that. But you would not be able to sit in Theed for hours, trust me. It would take a group of maybe3 to kill you. 2 rifleman headshotting you and one tkm headhitting you or trying to dizzy +kd you, not to mention making sure you are intimidated, stunned, and blinded.
Also, it seems they have fixed the shifting stats thing for PSG's by adding in vulnerabilities to them, which is unfortunate because Kinetic was a vulnerability on mine, so a TKM just knocked me down and pummeled my mind. Which could be another problem for you, if a TKM lands a dizzy+kd and pummels your mind, even with 80% kinetic resists I think their dps still outdoes the other melee professions. I believe Antares has a post on that somewhere. Not to mention if they get a hold of the new knucklers their damage will increase.
But, I'd agree that a fencer/doc is a very formiddable opponent, and would probably be one of the better combinations. Although, I think a rifleman/doc would do better since they can put out much more damage, and with the same set of armor and buffs the rifleman/doc would be able to ride out that dizzy+kd, or try to cure it with the doctor skills.
Well, I faced a fencer/doc last night, and I'm going to have to apologize for my brash statements above. Fencer/doc is indeed an awesome combo. Our duel was an epic one. I had my 37% stun armor with a 30-somethint% PSG on, so he could hardly touch me...unfortunately he had about the same on. I started off hitting him with all of my dot's from my pikes, but he would just cure the poisons right away. So then I'd try to intimidate/stun him with my dot pikes, then run back and try and headshot him with my jawa...another failure. He'd just cure the intimidate and stun, and then I couldn't hit him. The battle lasted forever, since he couldn't do enough damage to me to dent through my armor, and I was just hoping he'd run out of cure poison packs. Eventually my imperial PSG wore out, and he started to do some damage to me. He also hit me with a mind poison dot from some weapon. He eventually whittled me down to 1 mind, which at this point I decided I'd try to avoid him and hopefully wait out the poison, so I began to run circles around some kind of fountain so he couldn't hit me....well, he got mad after a minute or so of this, since it was just a duel..haha.
I kind of felt bad for delaying the inevitable, but I don't really like to lose. Anyway, I burst ran away, and he ended the duel and was kind of mad that I'd do that. I apologized and said if it made him feel any better he won, since there was really nothing I could do that I could think of to beat him. Sad thing was he was very new to the dr. profession, and he was still dominating. I had watched him duel several other templates before me, and at least I can say I lasted the longest against him. So 1 vs 1, I'd say yes a fencer/doc is awesome. I'm still not sure how well they'd do 3 vs 1,but it's definitely an awesome template.
As my Doc/Fencer Character MagnusJohnson would say.
/Hold's Belly
"Ah ha ha ha ha ha"
Not only that.. but with a poison on the health bar it will make him have to heal the health first before the mind. it goes in order.. CM's can stack 2 weaker poisons on the health and action and slam the mind with the sick ones.. the doc has to go through the health and action first before he can even touch the mind ticking away.
A doc/Fencer is GOOD but he can be beaten.. u just overload him with status for the KD/Dizzy and then work his mind over with a good Jawa.. Just don't get caught with that jawa in your hand at the beginning of the fight.. or u are a dead duck..
With a good non exploited baton a fencer can use scatterhit to drain your healthbar while buffed and if he is lucky 30%, he can drain your mind along with it.