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Thread: Need some help...which attachment should i put on my belt (rifleman)?

Cpl_Fisher
Fri Jan 14, 2005 2:26 pm
#27

A PSG will save your butt against a high damage stun weapon. It also takes the bite out of High damage energy weapons like T21's and DE-10'sThey don't work against acid blast or kenitic, so you need high resist in your comp to those. I go down twice as fast without a PSG than with one. unfortunately, I can't find a +2 or better riflespeed SEA anywhere that I can afford, I did pick up a belt with one already in it for 1 mil. I always PvP with a PSG unless its clear I'm not going to be hit, esp If I have to clse in and start using a flamethrower.



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OditeFosore
Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:03 pm
#28




Cpl_Fisher wrote:

A PSG will save your butt against a high damage stun weapon. It also takes the bite out of High damage energy weapons like T21's and DE-10'sThey don't work against acid blast or kenitic, so you need high resist in your comp to those. I go down twice as fast without a PSG than with one. unfortunately, I can't find a +2 or better riflespeed SEA anywhere that I can afford, I did pick up a belt with one already in it for 1 mil. I always PvP with a PSG unless its clear I'm not going to be hit, esp If I have to clse in and start using a flamethrower.




Agree completely. The reason many PVPing riflemenare using DXR6's lately is that PSG's are vulnerable to acid, so we are going to hit armor resists, but not have the added reisists of PSGs. It takes a very high powered jawa or T21 to do the same damage as a good DXR6 because of this. But, if I see a belt, I switch to the krayt jawa and go to town as I know right off that the max resist they will have is around 40%.


As far as avoiding melee encounters, it's definitely a goal, but not really possible in all scenarios. A meleers goal against you will be to get in close as quickly as possible, usually with a burst run - it's hard to stay out of their range all the time. The PSG will help in those encounters as well as against other ranged folks.




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Zadokk
Sat Jan 15, 2005 6:25 am
#29






OditeFosore wrote:




Cpl_Fisher wrote:

A PSG will save your butt against a high damage stun weapon. It also takes the bite out of High damage energy weapons like T21's and DE-10'sThey don't work against acid blast or kenitic, so you need high resist in your comp to those. I go down twice as fast without a PSG than with one. unfortunately, I can't find a +2 or better riflespeed SEA anywhere that I can afford, I did pick up a belt with one already in it for 1 mil. I always PvP with a PSG unless its clear I'm not going to be hit, esp If I have to clse in and start using a flamethrower.




Agree completely. The reason many PVPing riflemenare using DXR6's lately is that PSG's are vulnerable to acid, so we are going to hit armor resists, but not have the added reisists of PSGs. It takes a very high powered jawa or T21 to do the same damage as a good DXR6 because of this. But, if I see a belt, I switch to the krayt jawa and go to town as I know right off that the max resist they will have is around 40%.


As far as avoiding melee encounters, it's definitely a goal, but not really possible in all scenarios. A meleers goal against you will be to get in close as quickly as possible, usually with a burst run - it's hard to stay out of their range all the time. The PSG will help in those encounters as well as against other ranged folks.





If I had a krayt Jawa I would agree but lets not forget that most pvpers are melee stackers these days which means no one has ranged mitigation... thats where you bring in the pupedkrayt T21 and go to town.

BizzyNinja
Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:37 am
#30



Zadokk wrote:


OditeFosore wrote:

Cpl_Fisher wrote:
A PSG will save your butt against a high damage stun weapon. It also takes the bite out of High damage energy weapons like T21's and DE-10'sThey don't work against acid blast or kenitic, so you need high resist in your comp to those. I go down twice as fast without a PSG than with one. unfortunately, I can't find a +2 or better riflespeed SEA anywhere that I can afford, I did pick up a belt with one already in it for 1 mil. I always PvP with a PSG unless its clear I'm not going to be hit, esp If I have to clse in and start using a flamethrower.

Agree completely. The reason many PVPing riflemen are using DXR6's lately is that PSG's are vulnerable to acid, so we are going to hit armor resists, but not have the added reisists of PSGs. It takes a very high powered jawa or T21 to do the same damage as a good DXR6 because of this. But, if I see a belt, I switch to the krayt jawa and go to town as I know right off that the max resist they will have is around 40%.

As far as avoiding melee encounters, it's definitely a goal, but not really possible in all scenarios. A meleers goal against you will be to get in close as quickly as possible, usually with a burst run - it's hard to stay out of their range all the time. The PSG will help in those encounters as well as against other ranged folks.



If I had a krayt Jawa I would agree but lets not forget that most pvpers are melee stackers these days which means no one has ranged mitigation... thats where you bring in the puped krayt T21 and go to town.





a properly melee stacker will have pistol tech line...which gives you ranged mitigation +2.
Zadokk
Sat Jan 15, 2005 12:30 pm
#31






BizzyNinja wrote:





Zadokk wrote:





OditeFosore wrote:




Cpl_Fisher wrote:

A PSG will save your butt against a high damage stun weapon. It also takes the bite out of High damage energy weapons like T21's and DE-10'sThey don't work against acid blast or kenitic, so you need high resist in your comp to those. I go down twice as fast without a PSG than with one. unfortunately, I can't find a +2 or better riflespeed SEA anywhere that I can afford, I did pick up a belt with one already in it for 1 mil. I always PvP with a PSG unless its clear I'm not going to be hit, esp If I have to clse in and start using a flamethrower.




Agree completely. The reason many PVPing riflemen are using DXR6's lately is that PSG's are vulnerable to acid, so we are going to hit armor resists, but not have the added reisists of PSGs. It takes a very high powered jawa or T21 to do the same damage as a good DXR6 because of this. But, if I see a belt, I switch to the krayt jawa and go to town as I know right off that the max resist they will have is around 40%.


As far as avoiding melee encounters, it's definitely a goal, but not really possible in all scenarios. A meleers goal against you will be to get in close as quickly as possible, usually with a burst run - it's hard to stay out of their range all the time. The PSG will help in those encounters as well as against other ranged folks.





If I had a krayt Jawa I would agree but lets not forget that most pvpers are melee stackers these days which means no one has ranged mitigation... thats where you bring in the puped krayt T21 and go to town.








a properly melee stacker will have pistol tech line...which gives you ranged mitigation +2.



possibly although many stackers dont want totake up novice marksman as it costs 15pts. besides, if they did take it upthen they wouldn't be a melee stacker. i was thinking aboutsomeone who has TKM/mswords/Mbrawler or TKM/mfencer/mbrawler.

doozerFIG
Sat Jan 15, 2005 6:50 pm
#32

Zadokk: "possibly although many stackers dont want to take up novice marksman as it costs 15pts. besides, if they did take it up then they wouldn't be a melee stacker. i was thinking about someone who has TKM/mswords/Mbrawler or TKM/mfencer/mbrawler."

most stackers get pistols 0040 because the benefits justify the skillpoints.
for 49 skillpoints you get:
Defense v. Knockdown +50
Defense v. Posture Change (down) +20
Defense v. Dizzy +40
Defense v. Blind +40
Defense v. Stun +40
Ranged Mitigation 2

The more accurate term for the tk/brawler/fencer/swords/pistols template is Defense Stacker. Without ranged miti 2 they are open much wider to ranged attacks so most opt for it.



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BizzyNinja
Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:53 pm
#33



doozerFIG wrote:
Zadokk: "possibly although many stackers dont want to take up novice marksman as it costs 15pts. besides, if they did take it up then they wouldn't be a melee stacker. i was thinking about someone who has TKM/mswords/Mbrawler or TKM/mfencer/mbrawler."

most stackers get pistols 0040 because the benefits justify the skillpoints.
for 49 skillpoints you get:
Defense v. Knockdown +50
Defense v. Posture Change (down) +20
Defense v. Dizzy +40
Defense v. Blind +40
Defense v. Stun +40
Ranged Mitigation 2

The more accurate term for the tk/brawler/fencer/swords/pistols template is Defense Stacker. Without ranged miti 2 they are open much wider to ranged attacks so most opt for it.




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