Rifleman Archive
Thread: Conceal Shot
edine wrote:
How are all the newbie riflemen gonna solo quenkers without conseal shot?
That will force rifleman to dub CH or get into a group, which is against our soloist nature.
Let's put this all in perspective. According to the post you reference and this post, you killed eight targets with Concealshot and two by bleeding them to one point of damage then oneshotting them. It took three muon golds (ten minute up time, three minute down time). That is a total time of as much as 40 minutes including downers. But let us say you did the Concealshot victims in 30 minutes. You also said it took 300 Concealshots to kill them.
With a bleed, I can bleed and run. Heck, I can even bleed them, get on my bike and leave the area while the bleed works. If I put a 1000 point bleed on a 10K HAM target, it will take 10 ticks of the bleed timer, or 200 seconds, to get it down to one point of damage. That is a total of 3.3 minutes. Right now, you can stack bleeds and easily average over 2000 points of bleed per target (5 bleed ticks = 100 seconds = 1.67 minutes). But let us assume a single 1000 point bleed even though I can easily get a 1200 - 1500 point bleed with Mindshot2. That means I can kiill a 10K HAM target in 3.3 minutes and only two shots (the bleed and the finishing shot).
Eight targets in 30 minutes works out to 3.75 minutes per target, which means it took more time with Concealshot. To kill eight targets with 300 shots, that is an average of 37.5 shots per target.
So, it took 12.5 times as many shots per target (150 times as many over all and this is assuming a mere 1000 point bleed) and nearly 30 seconds per target longer to kill the eight targets using Concealshot than it did to kill them with a bleed.
How does this make Concealshot overpowered?
what i meant was if you dont mind waiting then you cant be detected.
im only a 1/1/0/0 rifleman with no tapes etc. i was prone with +30 or so to hit. i didnt miss once. and you need to miss twice to be detected.
now PvP its useless AFAIK.
oh well it was something to post
biwan:I would do just what you said. Get Conceal first then go up the Sniper tree. Conceal hits random . If you do not miss , they will never agro. If you have the points invest in some scout and get masked smell as well.Conceal is not the fastest method to level with, but if you have no pets or other tank , it will serve you well. Hope this helps. If you are on Kettemoor , you can message me .
Good luck and cheers,
Polgara
Fireblazz wrote:
I just hit novice rifleman today and from what i've read on the boards savage quenkers seem to be the riflemans flavor of choice. I have a couple questions hopfully some Master rifleman can help me out or anyone with rifleman experience. The way i see it i should get connceal shot 1st and then work on the sniper tree. The question i'm trying to find out is with conceal shot about how long will it take a mob to agro me with me just being novice 0/0/0/0 and second is conceal shot a random pool or mind shot. Any other suggestions you have with working with conceal shot will also help.
Thanks,
I think you are far better off just getting a primo T21 damage sliced, then spamming HS2 on savage quenkers. Only takes 2-3 hits maybe 4 if you get crappy rolls.
It works really good if you get into a large group, and start pulling those lairs with 5 of them at the lair 
Gillies
