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Thread: So you guys are missing a correspondent...

LiakyK
Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:22 am
#27
If I could ever remember his other forum name I would send klaw evil PMs

Kinda funny I knew him in game and we had the same templates lmao.

Message Edited by LiakyK on 07-02-2004 02:23 PM



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jdmaldo
Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:04 pm
#28
i wish pistoleer would get whoever the hell rifleman had as their correspondent, because rifleman is pretty damn godly. jk randonb

LiakyK
Sun Jul 04, 2004 12:11 pm
#29
I still wanna choke Klaw's Jedi

Message Edited by LiakyK on 07-04-2004 03:12 AM



Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather...
to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out and loudly proclaiming: "WOW - What a ride!"
Ailuu
Wed Jul 14, 2004 3:38 am
#30

Fairly new to Rifleman and following discussions here. The recent change to LOS on test though is one that needs tweaking. If in fact as someone said the target field is at a mobs feet, this needs to be changed. If they are going to change to a stricter LOS, field of hit should be changed to center mass. Having 95% of a Fambaa in sight and getting "cannot see target" is well.....stupid.


Thanks to all for some great advice while I have been slowly leveling up


*edit* If you have not logged into test and seen this LOS change, please do so. It is a HUGE change for the worse as it now stands.

Message Edited by Ailuu on 07-14-2004 05:40 AM



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GrimBear
Wed Jul 14, 2004 3:46 am
#31
I've had a small rock "block" my line of sight on a creature I could see 100% ... had it a few times.


I think also it should depend on your special. havemultiple LOS ... Headshot and mindshot drawing line of fire from gun to target's head. Pistoleer leg shot maybe checking the feet or legs with each leg having a LOS and blocked leg LOS reducing the odds of a successful legshot. Random shots should check all LOS on the mob and pick a free one.


May well be a pain in the bum ... but it would make more sense.



GrimBear
Waste93
Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:13 am
#32
Checking LoS multiple ways would be overly complicated to code most likely. What they need to do is raise the check location on the target to center mass or eye to eye.


The other thing they need to do is change it so there is a double check. First LoS check is to see if you can see the target. If you can't then another LoS check is done to see if the target can see you. If that last one is a yes then you both will have LoS. As it is right now it's possible for A to see B but B can't see A. Which makes no sense.


They should also make the terrain a bit more friendly if they go with this LoS. Most planets have lots of gulleys and rolling hills that are going to cause lots ofproblems. Especially for Riflemen with their longer ideal ranges.



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PyscoJuggalo
Wed Jul 14, 2004 3:32 pm
#33




Waste93 wrote:

Checking LoS multiple ways would be overly complicated to code most likely. What they need to do is raise the check location on the target to center mass or eye to eye.


The other thing they need to do is change it so there is a double check. First LoS check is to see if you can see the target. If you can't then another LoS check is done to see if the target can see you. If that last one is a yes then you both will have LoS. As it is right now it's possible for A to see B but B can't see A. Which makes no sense.


They should also make the terrain a bit more friendly if they go with this LoS. Most planets have lots of gulleys and rolling hills that are going to cause lots ofproblems. Especially for Riflemen with their longer ideal ranges.





I think they are going to run into a problem if the check location is raised(well not really a problem IMO). If the Check location israised will that not open up the ability to fire from a balcony. Now I would like this but I'm sure Meleers would have a fit.



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CM's are like nukes. You have them just incase you need them, but as soon as you start using yours the other guys start using theirs and everything goes to hell-PyschoticChipmunk -The First line of the Riflenomican.
Waste93
Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:16 pm
#34






PyscoJuggalo wrote:


I think they are going to run into a problem if the check location is raised(well not really a problem IMO). If the Check location israised will that not open up the ability to fire from a balcony. Now I would like this but I'm sure Meleers would have a fit.





I don't know why it would allow firing from balconies. Though like you I have no problem with that. If I can see the target I should be able to hit it.


Yes melee's would have an issue with this. But as long as you make it so that if you are in a private residence you can't fire from the balcony it should be ok. Otherwise you have people on their balconies taking pot shots as people go by and the melee have no chance of entering the building to get them.





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XaverriJade7
Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:57 pm
#35
I'm having some problems submitting my screenshots to ImageDump, but I took a few I wanted to show you all of me 'sniping' from the roof of our city's theatre. Just climb up and go prone. Looks real neat! Can't do it from houses right now, but at least one building allows it for those that are looking to feel more like a sniper





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martinit
Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:16 pm
#36
1. Strafe shot is boned. Doesn't hit mulitple mobs on initital shot. Doesnt hit multiple mobs up close.


2. Weapon switch delay, was that planned - i heard it was meant for armor only. Whatever the case, its frustrating in its current state.


3. This class is going to be the biggest joke in publish 10. I wont go in to details, but seriously, **edit**. It's one of the most popular classes, a lot of ppl will be upset. And yes, i understand the reasoning behind it - dynamic being good and all.


4. Jedi.

4b) Jedi Wars.




PyscoJuggalo
Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:48 pm
#37




Waste93 wrote:







PyscoJuggalo wrote:


I think they are going to run into a problem if the check location is raised(well not really a problem IMO). If the Check location israised will that not open up the ability to fire from a balcony. Now I would like this but I'm sure Meleers would have a fit.





I don't know why it would allow firing from balconies. Though like you I have no problem with that. If I can see the target I should be able to hit it.


Yes melee's would have an issue with this. But as long as you make it so that if you are in a private residence you can't fire from the balcony it should be ok. Otherwise you have people on their balconies taking pot shots as people go by and the melee have no chance of entering the building to get them.






Gving an Example, please explain where I'm wrong(Not tooKnowledgable on these MMO Physics things):


-Say LOS is raised to Eye level and your Eyes are over the shortbarrier on the Balcony, would'nt thatmean your LOS no longer Blocked and you could shot anything you see from the Balcony?



I am the Mad Rifleman, Writer of the Riflenomican. I understand the secrets of the Dark Ancient Developer ones and their Evil. (Maniacal Laughter) He he he he he, Ha ha ha ha ha, Aha ha ha ha!
CM's are like nukes. You have them just incase you need them, but as soon as you start using yours the other guys start using theirs and everything goes to hell-PyschoticChipmunk -The First line of the Riflenomican.
LiakyK
Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:55 pm
#38
They want riflemen to be snipers, so we should be allowed to shoot from roof tops



Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather...
to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out and loudly proclaiming: "WOW - What a ride!"
Waste93
Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:42 pm
#39






PyscoJuggalo wrote:


Giving an Example, please explain where I'm wrong(Not tooKnowledgable on these MMO Physics things):



-Say LOS is raised to Eye level and your Eyes are over the shortbarrier on the Balcony, would'nt thatmean your LOS no longer Blocked and you could shot anything you see from the Balcony?




You may not be wrong. Depends on how the code it. But they could also code it so that it factors as you still being inside the house which could block LoS.


I like the idea. We just need to figure out some safeguards so peope don't use private resisdences as sniper roosts in PvP while making the house private. Or using them as safeguards against melee MOB's.


I can see someone putting a house down in the Krayt Graveyard and sitting on their balconey shooting Krayts with impunity.





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