Rifleman Archive
Thread: Will this stop the jawa ion nerf whiners?
shadowlith wrote:
You guys are missing the point on AP here. The people that would CARE about someone dealing stun damage, are the ones that have no protection against it. If I see someone's got stun armor on, you can bet damn well I'm gonna bust out a heavy hitting T-21 and rip their 52% energy protection apart.
If they have Stun Vulnerability, (which would be those complaining of Stun weapons) AP means nothing.
On my server you can get stun layered armor with 75% base protection and more. Stun is the only weapon that work here.....well and CMs.
DECarbineer wrote:
shadowlith wrote:
You guys are missing the point on AP here. The people that would CARE about someone dealing stun damage, are the ones that have no protection against it. If I see someone's got stun armor on, you can bet damn well I'm gonna bust out a heavy hitting T-21 and rip their 52% energy protection apart.
If they have Stun Vulnerability, (which would be those complaining of Stun weapons) AP means nothing.
On my server you can get stun layered armor with 75% base protection and more. Stun is the only weapon that work here.....well and CMs.
I want to play on your server. Best stun armor we have on Tarq is 36 Stun / 56 base. Then again, Tarq is the ugly step child for SOE's resource spawning 
Still, for the majority of players I would guess, they are dealing with vulnerabilities to stun, and the stun armor is the exception not the rule.
HARP00N wrote:
14/18/9 ham costs, 3.7 speeds withdamage equal toa good jawa ion riflebefore power ups and slices.
cant wait till BHs get it. Now they'll be eye shotting for more mind damage than riflemen, at the same speed, draining nothing, and ignoring composite armour helmets.
Don't forget, BHs get 0 melee or ranged defense, no dodge/counterattack/block, and no Dizzy/KD/blind...defense. I take that back...at Master BH gets +7 ranged defense. If a Master Rifleman and Master BH start shooting each other at the same time, the Rifleman will win the majority of the time because a BH will miss so often against ranged defense and will get hit about everytime because of their lack of defense
Um I have seen layered composit unsliced:
no vunerabllites
special protection
37% stun
80% energy
Other protection
60% everything else
um tell me again how stun guns will rule?
Xytroncore wrote:
Well if you get restricted to only 48m you go on and say that the new pistol is equal (or even in the same ballpark) as the jawa ion rifle... And everyone knows HAM costs aren't even an issue, take some food and it's no problem... and I've never seen a post saying anyone's found the schematic for the pistol, not to mention that's the first half decent looted pistol I've seen, all the other screenshots I've seen of that pistol the damage has been half of that, so one in 10 pistols that drop may look as good as that...Plus the AP of the jawa.
Seriously, this pistol doesn't come close to a jawa ion rifle.
Manimal, I'm scared. I agree with you. Oh and I am 90% sure there have been schems looted on TC, I'll try to dig up a post about em. Might just be more rare...or broken. But Jawa will still be the better gun. AP doesn't matter against vulnerabilities, Armor isn't taken into effect. But Jawa is still a better DPS gun, up over 500 easy Krayted with a good slice and Powerup. Not gonna beat that.
Oh and Strafe2 is 5x as of right now.
shadowlith wrote:
Manimal, I'm scared. I agree with you. Oh and I am 90% sure there have been schems looted on TC, I'll try to dig up a post about em. Might just be more rare...or broken. But Jawa will still be the better gun. AP doesn't matter against vulnerabilities, Armor isn't taken into effect. But Jawa is still a better DPS gun, up over 500 easy Krayted with a good slice and Powerup. Not gonna beat that.
Oh and Strafe2 is 5x as of right now.
DarkWonderer wrote:
Dosn't this pistol also have an upper level pistoleer cert similar to the new 2-handed weapon?
It just needs Techniques II, sort of like how we need Counter-Sniping II to use the Tenloss Disruptor.
taloncard wrote:
/sigh
Um I have seen layered composit unsliced:
no vunerabllites
special protection
37% stun
80% energy
Other protection
60% everything else
um tell me again how stun guns will rule?
Well considering the highest stun can go is 40%, while usually everything else can get to 90%...just because it's not longer vulnerable to stun doesn't mean that stun still won't own compared to other damage types.
Rocacca wrote:http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=43858&poll_id=0&warned=y\This is a new stun pistol looted on my server. That is unsliced and unpowered up. Last ditch with that would own people through armor.
Wow.
The damage and the HAMs are crazy. With a slice and power up, it may be one of the best pistols on a given server, especially for PvP.
chris
Rocacca wrote:
You can loot a schematic to make this gun, its not only loot. And last ditch has a 6x damage multiplyer, Adv strafe is 4x. When I had a krayt fwg5 and was a novice pistoleer with Dirty fighting 4 I was shooting things for 6k dmg and hitting for 1200 dmg in pvp after kding them with lowblow.
Not to discount what you are trying to show here, but for the sake of accuracy, Flushingshot2 is 4x damage; Strafeshot2 is 5x damage.