Rifleman Archive

yes but ut has 0AP...

that alone makes the jawa 10x better... but i also wear complete stun armor for PvP... so that will do about the same damage or less than other pistols out there...

Wabit

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dimmu-borgir wrote:

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Xytroncore wrote:

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Rocacca wrote:

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=43858&poll_id=0&warned=y\

This is a new stun pistol looted on my server. That is unsliced and unpowered up. Last ditch with that would own people through armor.

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Well considering it's only loot, and the jawa ion is still 10x better, and adv strafe is a lot better then last ditch... I don't see how this makes the jawa ion rifle less "uber".

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ok, so what makes the jawa ion rifle 10x better? the extra 16m of range? note the ham costs are higher on our rifle, sure, the gsb may be loot, but you loot them in schematics, and well, its not that hard to go camp a cave and kill things, right?

and like Rocacca said, last ditch is a 6x mod, strafe2 is 4x

and anyways, the only thing about it that is "uber" is that it will punch a hole in your uber composite armor.

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Well if you get restricted to only 48m you go on and say that the new pistol is equal (or even in the same ballpark) as the jawa ion rifle... And everyone knows HAM costs aren't even an issue, take some food and it's no problem... and I've never seen a post saying anyone's found the schematic for the pistol, not to mention that's the first half decent looted pistol I've seen, all the other screenshots I've seen of that pistol the damage has been half of that, so one in 10 pistols that drop may look as good as that...Plus the AP of the jawa.

Seriously, this pistol doesn't come close to a jawa ion rifle.

first of all ap 0 matters very little against composite that is vulnerible to stun (ap doesnt count then)

as for the gun get a 32% slice and a 33% PUon it for a max damage of 418, can we say eyeshot anybody

man the bh got it good now, good stun weapon, low ham, and a killer shot to the mind pool.

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kpr wrote:

first of all ap 0 matters very little against composite that is vulnerible to stun (ap doesnt count then)

as for the gun get a 32% slice and a 33% PUon it for a max damage of 418, can we say eyeshot anybody

man the bh got it good now, good stun weapon, low ham, and a killer shot to the mind pool.

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Stun-vulnerable composite really is not an option in PvP. If you want to win, anyway. Simply too many attacks that just go right through it. This pistol simply makes it important to have fully stun layered composite instead of just a helm/BP, since lastditch targets a random area.

As for that pistol.. my Jawa is way over 412 damage without a powerup,and is AP 1 to boot. It's not really in the same damage class as a Jawa Ion, although it is a HUGE improvement over the Tangle.

Message Edited by MydnyghtDaywalker on 02-26-2004 05:25 AM

shadowlyth wrote

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PsychoticChipmunk wrote:
Yeah, I've heard horror stories about how hard that dungeon is. Groups of 3 or 4 TKM stackers got slaughtered after just 4 doors into it or so...doesn't sound like a borgle cave syndrome to me

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