Rifleman Archive

Thread: ***PVP ACCURACY LOGS***

SilverLobo
Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:31 pm
#27

I thought you were the PvP god? Pretty sad you wouldnt have realized that keeping a rifle in your hand when being attacked by a pet is not a good idea.

Hawkenz
Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:31 pm
#28

Quit cluttering these boards with your logs unless your gonna do it the right way.



Grab a couple people use one onones. Show the distance. Show the class of the people you are fighting. Use specials, use different positions crawl, prone, standing, running. Give us the stats of your rifle, the stats of their weapon and what armor both are wearing.


Instead of posting this crap.




Hawkenz Lifebane

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Hawkenz
Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:33 pm
#29

And please tellme when and where I claimed to be a pvp GOD. You have some kind of agenda and it has nothing to do with the betterment of this class.



Hawkenz Lifebane

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SilverLobo
Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:34 pm
#30

The first log I dont think I missed but the log right after I missed all but one shot before being killed.



[Combat] 23:41:49 You use Advanced Strafe on Odee (a senior SpecForce urban guerrilla) for 1226 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:41:49 You use Advanced Strafe on Isoquaco Enipota (a senior SpecForce pathfinder) for 1626 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:41:49 You use Advanced Strafe on (Ringo) for 2423 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:41:49 Your Advanced Strafe misses Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist).
[Combat] 23:41:49 You use Advanced Strafe on Utrie for 438 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:41:49 Isoquaco Enipota (a senior SpecForce pathfinder) shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 23:41:49 Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 23:41:49 Odee (a senior SpecForce urban guerrilla) shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 23:41:51 You use Advanced Strafe on Odee (a senior SpecForce urban guerrilla) for 1800 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:41:51 Your Advanced Strafe misses Isoquaco Enipota (a senior SpecForce pathfinder).
[Combat] 23:41:51 You use Advanced Strafe on (Ringo) for 1569 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:41:51 Your Advanced Strafe misses Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist).
[Combat] 23:41:51 You use Advanced Strafe on Utrie for 569 points of damage, but she counterattacks!
[Combat] 23:41:51 Odee (a senior SpecForce urban guerrilla) shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 23:41:51 Isoquaco Enipota (a senior SpecForce pathfinder) shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 23:41:51 Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 23:41:53 You use Advanced Strafe on Odee (a senior SpecForce urban guerrilla) for 1539 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:41:53 You use Advanced Strafe on Isoquaco Enipota (a senior SpecForce pathfinder) for 2185 points of damage, but she counterattacks!
[Combat] 23:41:53 You use Advanced Strafe on (Ringo) for 1839 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:41:53 You use Advanced Strafe on Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) for 2461 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:41:53 You use Advanced Strafe on Utrie for 571 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:41:53 Isoquaco Enipota (a senior SpecForce pathfinder) shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 23:41:53 Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 23:41:53 Odee (a senior SpecForce urban guerrilla) shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 23:41:55 You incapacitate Utrie.
[Combat] 23:41:55 Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) shoots at you and hits for 169 points of damage.
[Combat] 23:41:55 You use Advanced Strafe on Isoquaco Enipota (a senior SpecForce pathfinder) for 1287 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:41:55 You use Advanced Strafe on Odee (a senior SpecForce urban guerrilla) for 1599 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:41:55 You use Advanced Strafe on Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) for 1656 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:41:55 You use Advanced Strafe on Utrie for 545 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:41:55 Isoquaco Enipota (a senior SpecForce pathfinder) shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 23:41:55 Odee (a senior SpecForce urban guerrilla) shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 23:41:57 Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 23:41:57 Odee (a senior SpecForce urban guerrilla) shoots at you and hits for 177 points of damage.
[Combat] 23:41:57 Isoquaco Enipota (a senior SpecForce pathfinder) shoots at you and hits for 116 points of damage.
[Combat] 23:41:57 Your Chitin Armor Leggings armor prevented 22 points of damage.
[Combat] 23:41:57 Utrie is no more.
[Combat] 23:41:57 You use Sniper Shot on corpse of Utrie for 50 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:41:59 Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 23:41:59 You shoot at Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) and hit for 534 points of damage.
[Combat] 23:41:59 Odee (a senior SpecForce urban guerrilla) uses Wild Shot on you for 293 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:41:59 Isoquaco Enipota (a senior SpecForce pathfinder) shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 23:42:00 You use Advanced Strafe on Isoquaco Enipota (a senior SpecForce pathfinder) for 3291 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:42:00 You use Advanced Strafe on Odee (a senior SpecForce urban guerrilla) for 2466 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:42:00 You use Advanced Strafe on Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) for 1518 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:42:01 Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 23:42:03 Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 23:42:04 You shoot at Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) but miss.
[Combat] 23:42:05 Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) shoots at you and hits for 112 points of damage.
[Combat] 23:42:05 You shoot at Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) and hit for 439 points of damage.
[Combat] 23:42:06 You shoot at Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) and hit for 485 points of damage.
[Combat] 23:42:07 Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 23:42:07 You shoot at Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) and hit for 339 points of damage.
[Combat] 23:42:08 You shoot at Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) and hit her, but she counterattacks!
[Combat] 23:42:09 Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist)'s Burst Blast misses you.
[Combat] 23:42:09 You shoot at Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) and hit for 686 points of damage.
[Combat] 23:42:10 You shoot at Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) and hit for 436 points of damage.
[Combat] 23:42:11 You shoot at Ohagacht (a senior SpecForce heavy weapons specialist) and hit for 677 points of damage.


[Combat] 00:05:50 Your Master Head Shot misses Marsha.
[Combat] 00:05:50 Marsha shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 00:05:51 You use Master Head Shot on Marsha for 237 points of damage!
[Combat] 00:05:52 Your Master Head Shot misses Marsha.
[Combat] 00:05:53 Your Master Head Shot misses Marsha.

AldeonAvardulin
Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:34 pm
#31






Hawkenz wrote:

I decided to fight the same person.


[Combat] 23:17:07 Your Master Head Shot misses Saba Nigiri.
[Combat] 23:17:07 Saba Nigiri uses Stopping Shot on you for 217 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:17:09 Your Master Head Shot misses Saba Nigiri.
[Combat] 23:17:09 Saba Nigiri uses Stopping Shot on you for 217 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:17:11 Your Master Head Shot misses Saba Nigiri.
[Combat] 23:17:11 Saba Nigiri shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 23:17:13 Your Master Head Shot misses Saba Nigiri.
[Combat] 23:17:14 (Spoon) misses you!
[Combat] 23:17:15 Saba Nigiri uses Stopping Shot on you for 217 points of damage!
[Combat] 23:17:15 You incapacitate Saba Nigiri.



Missing something here....I bolded all your shots, they were all miss, yet somehow you incap Saba?



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Hawkenz
Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:36 pm
#32

I was being facetious Ava in showing how easy it is to doctor a log.



It left it there on purpose to show it was indeed doctored. The point I am trying to make is in order to do effective balance testing, and create proper logs people have to know the VARIABLES.





Hawkenz Lifebane

GM - DROW - Bloodfin - Theed

WWW.GUILDDROW.ORG
SilverLobo
Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:37 pm
#33

He just cut and pasted my log.


But as for me doing one on one logs, why dont you go do it you havnt done anything to support your whining to date anyway.

Hawkenz
Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:38 pm
#34

Nothing to support what I have been trying to say?


Guess you missed everyones thread how screwed rifleman are except for 3 people that keep posting and saying how uber we are including the TL.




Hawkenz Lifebane

GM - DROW - Bloodfin - Theed

WWW.GUILDDROW.ORG
Drunkenjedi420
Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:46 pm
#35

Lobo - he is right(hawk is). You cant just go fight any joe blow and post a log and say thats it. You need to support evidence of the complete sittuation. I know a fights a fight, but most people fight differently then eachother. So what your doing there might not apply to any rifleman on the server. Need more details because this is a very detailed situation with lots of calculations for some form of Logical answer as to how a class functions Vs. its opponents.


-=Sazo Stonesi - Radient=-




Sazo - Radiant
MY DIARY OF NGE
SilverLobo
Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:48 pm
#36

I dont care what others think. I will not be pulled into the mob of whiners when I can just as easily test things on my own and come to a conclussion on my own.


I can continue to post more encounters if you like but they wont be much diffrence, you can see me getting bent over by a group with 2 comando's if that would make you feel better.


Doesnt change the message of the logs. Our hit percentage has gone way down, just like everyone else, BUT we are being effected worse by it because of our Mind costs. The Devs need to take a serious look at everyone's HAM cost now that hit percentage is down. Also they need to look at bonus to hit for all the professions, I believe Rifleman were already lower in this department to start with, and now are being effected more by the lower chance to hit.


What they dont need to look at is what the whiners want done. Our damage does NOT need to be raised, and our range does NOT need be increased. All this will do is get our profession Nerfed in the long run.

Hawkenz
Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:54 pm
#37

"Our damage does NOT need to be raised, and our range does NOT need be increased. All this will do is get our profession Nerfed in the long run."



Too bad hardly 1% of the posts have asked for either of those things. I dont want damage RAISED or RANGE lengthened if you can find ONE of my posts where I asked for either I'll never post on here again.



again your an a%%*ole. Who has some other agenda and it isn't helping this class.


Better acuuracy for non masters, reduction in the 2.5 modifier SO WE DONT HAVE BE A TKA LIKE YOU MISTER ROCKET SCIENTIST in order to be effective at pvp, prone warp bug, stutter bug, and REDUCTION in damage of commando ft and bounty hunter llc, is what MOST of want, since our rifle was nerfed becaiuse we could ONE SHOT people and now THEY can.



There are quite a bit of other issues but the TWO you metnioned hardly anyone has asked for.



Twit.








Hawkenz Lifebane

GM - DROW - Bloodfin - Theed

WWW.GUILDDROW.ORG
Drunkenjedi420
Sun Sep 07, 2003 4:02 pm
#38

He does bring up a good point about HAM costs. I have been using none of my skills becuase of this and I have had to raise my Mind more. I still dont understand where you are going with innacurate logs?


-=Sazo=-




Sazo - Radiant
MY DIARY OF NGE
SilverLobo
Sun Sep 07, 2003 5:19 pm
#39

Because they dont work with his made up assumption of where we stand so they must be made up.


Diffrence here is I dont have a agenda and that pisses people like him off because he does. He wants the profession to make up for his lack of game. He is a Novice Rifleman that talks like he understands what the profession is and how it matches up with other Master professions.


To put this in prospective this would be like a lvl 25 in Everquest, DAoC etc saying they should compete with lvl 50's-60's whatever the cap is. Just because this game doesnt have "levels" doesnt mean it is not a level based game. Sorry if I am not tickled pink that our lvl 25 n00bs are trying to dictate what this class should be.


The worst part is the idiot has totally missed the point of this post, but I am not surprised. His whining has made him blind.

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