Rifleman Archive

Thread: We Need A Root

Gillik
Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:23 pm
#27

Just lower the rating then. Any rifleman, specially if their bhs should be investing in more than just guns. One of the bhs that killed my jedi was laced full of rifleman speed and accuracy tapes. Which just leaves SAC. Which can be lowered by slicing.


Just because your described as something doesnt mean that you actually are something.








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Ruarc - Elder Jedi
Ackehece
Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:44 pm
#28






Gillik wrote:

Just lower the rating then. Any rifleman, specially if their bhs should be investing in more than just guns. One of the bhs that killed my jedi was laced full of rifleman speed and accuracy tapes. Which just leaves SAC. Which can be lowered by slicing.


Just because your described as something doesnt mean that you actually are something.








1) sac can not be sliced (though you can get powerups for it

2) the profession is defined by their role diagram - if we don't fit our role the game balance is out.


so


we need skills that fill our role - so snipershot that works better then it currently does, headshot that does damage on par with critical shot or at least legshot, and a kneecap that is nearly as strong as crippling shot, and startle shot nearly as strong as advanced disarming shot.

We are not asking for a root - we are asking to be effective and relavent.


Also your bh probably was some other profession then rifleman as our best rifle currently does not need to be used by a rifleman and with the generic mods in bh and other professions with large amounts of modsyou can stack and used with seas and be actually about the same efficency with a rifle as a rifleman + any other profession is but with a different assortment of skills. This of course being a reason that the T-21 needs an upgrade (can't imagine all the groans if I suggest the alr be nerf'd)




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16BitHero
Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:35 am
#29


You have a rifle, you can shoot from 65m. Don't complain about not having a root, learn how to use your template.


Try being a pistoleer with only 35m


We can be.


Hit with CM DoT's


Hit with Jedi choke


Kited by rifleman


Kited by carbineers


If you know how to play the rifleman role you can stay out of the CM or Jedi's 35M Range on there DoT's and Chokes + can kite a melee for the rest of your life, kinda hard doing that with pistoleer especiallyagainst defense stackers where Stopping Shot misses half the time.


Not complaining at all, just showing you guys why you don't need a root.

Message Edited by 16BitHero on 09-07-2005 01:38 AM



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Gillik
Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:38 am
#30






16BitHero wrote:

You have a rifle, you can shoot from 65m. Don't complain about not having a root, learn how to use your template.






Even farther with ranged arms or did they make 65m the permamant range. Not to mention if you go bh you get a kd, mcm you become a pvp god (not really but still frickin powerful), smuggler you get a kd, feign death, n last ditch. Lists goes on n on about why rifleman dont need a root.

Message Edited by Gillik on 09-07-2005 01:41 AM






Drax'el - 2nd Imp MBH of Ket - Retired
Reznik - Smuggler
Ruarc - Elder Jedi
16BitHero
Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:47 am
#31






Gillik wrote:






16BitHero wrote:

You have a rifle, you can shoot from 65m. Don't complain about not having a root, learn how to use your template.






Even farther with ranged arms or did they make 65m the permamant range. Not to mention if you go bh you get a kd, mcm you become a pvp god (not really but still frickin powerful), smuggler you get a kd, feign death, n last ditch. Lists goes on n on about why rifleman dont need a root.

Message Edited by Gillik on 09-07-2005 01:41 AM




I wish smuggler got a KD, then I wouldn't have to dable in carbineer for it



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Gillik
Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:50 am
#32

Thought smuggler had one. But still last ditch n feign death make smuggler good to have for a rifleman.






Drax'el - 2nd Imp MBH of Ket - Retired
Reznik - Smuggler
Ruarc - Elder Jedi
16BitHero
Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:53 am
#33






Gillik wrote:
Thought smuggler had one. But still last ditch n feign death make smuggler good to have for a rifleman.






Yeah especially if they concussion shot get 20m away Sniper shot, then KD panic shot get 20m away again sniper shot... rinse repeat


But people are to hungover on the fact that OMGLOL!!!1 BH and CM = god, people need to learn how to experiment with other profesions.





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Gillik
Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:55 am
#34






16BitHero wrote:





Gillik wrote:
Thought smuggler had one. But still last ditch n feign death make smuggler good to have for a rifleman.






Yeah especially if they concussion shot get 20m away Sniper shot, then KD panic shot get 20m away again sniper shot... rinse repeat


But people are to hungover on the fact that OMGLOL!!!1 BH and CM = god, people need to learn how to experiment with other profesions.







Most people go cm for healing just cause you can get the healing line of cm for less sp then doc n cms have the nice AOE heal.






Drax'el - 2nd Imp MBH of Ket - Retired
Reznik - Smuggler
Ruarc - Elder Jedi
16BitHero
Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:56 am
#35






Ackehece wrote:





Gillik wrote:

Just lower the rating then. Any rifleman, specially if their bhs should be investing in more than just guns. One of the bhs that killed my jedi was laced full of rifleman speed and accuracy tapes. Which just leaves SAC. Which can be lowered by slicing.


Just because your described as something doesnt mean that you actually are something.








1) sac can not be sliced (though you can get powerups for it

2) the profession is defined by their role diagram - if we don't fit our role the game balance is out.


so


we need skills that fill our role - so snipershot that works better then it currently does, headshot that does damage on par with critical shot or at least legshot, and a kneecap that is nearly as strong as crippling shot, and startle shot nearly as strong as advanced disarming shot.

We are not asking for a root - we are asking to be effective and relavent.


Also your bh probably was some other profession then rifleman as our best rifle currently does not need to be used by a rifleman and with the generic mods in bh and other professions with large amounts of modsyou can stack and used with seas and be actually about the same efficency with a rifle as a rifleman + any other profession is but with a different assortment of skills. This of course being a reason that the T-21 needs an upgrade (can't imagine all the groans if I suggest the alr be nerf'd)






3 isn't very high on CC, this is why you have your snare, yes it needs to be fixed but having a root for only a 3 on CC would make the system incorect. Pistoleers have a2 on our offense (last time I checked) and we don't have any specials even close to the damage of headshot or legshot.

Message Edited by 16BitHero on 09-07-2005 02:02 AM



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Gillik
Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:00 am
#36






16BitHero wrote:





Gillik wrote:





16BitHero wrote:





Gillik wrote:
Thought smuggler had one. But still last ditch n feign death make smuggler good to have for a rifleman.






Yeah especially if they concussion shot get 20m away Sniper shot, then KD panic shot get 20m away again sniper shot... rinse repeat


But people are to hungover on the fact that OMGLOL!!!1 BH and CM = god, people need to learn how to experiment with other profesions.







Most people go cm for healing just cause you can get the healing line of cm for less sp then doc n cms have the nice AOE heal.





Yeah you're right I guess I get to cought up in the fact that you really don't need CM if you're a smuggler since you have mezzez and stuff so I tend to take it out on the people who aren't smuggler with CM something I need to stop.




Nah just blame all the problems with the game on jedi. Everyone else does.







Drax'el - 2nd Imp MBH of Ket - Retired
Reznik - Smuggler
Ruarc - Elder Jedi
16BitHero
Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:04 am
#37






Gillik wrote:





16BitHero wrote:





Gillik wrote:





16BitHero wrote:





Gillik wrote:
Thought smuggler had one. But still last ditch n feign death make smuggler good to have for a rifleman.






Yeah especially if they concussion shot get 20m away Sniper shot, then KD panic shot get 20m away again sniper shot... rinse repeat


But people are to hungover on the fact that OMGLOL!!!1 BH and CM = god, people need to learn how to experiment with other profesions.







Most people go cm for healing just cause you can get the healing line of cm for less sp then doc n cms have the nice AOE heal.





Yeah you're right I guess I get to cought up in the fact that you really don't need CM if you're a smuggler since you have mezzez and stuff so I tend to take it out on the people who aren't smuggler with CM something I need to stop.




Nah just blame all the problems with the game on jedi. Everyone else does.






Lol, TBH I don't see what all the fuss about jedi is they aren't THAT hard to kill,there are ways to beat them you just have to figure it out. Everyone just wants to have the ability to pwnz0r without having to use any tactics at all.



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Gillik
Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:10 am
#38






16BitHero wrote:





Gillik wrote:





16BitHero wrote:





Gillik wrote:





16BitHero wrote:





Gillik wrote:
Thought smuggler had one. But still last ditch n feign death make smuggler good to have for a rifleman.






Yeah especially if they concussion shot get 20m away Sniper shot, then KD panic shot get 20m away again sniper shot... rinse repeat


But people are to hungover on the fact that OMGLOL!!!1 BH and CM = god, people need to learn how to experiment with other profesions.







Most people go cm for healing just cause you can get the healing line of cm for less sp then doc n cms have the nice AOE heal.





Yeah you're right I guess I get to cought up in the fact that you really don't need CM if you're a smuggler since you have mezzez and stuff so I tend to take it out on the people who aren't smuggler with CM something I need to stop.




Nah just blame all the problems with the game on jedi. Everyone else does.






Lol, TBH I don't see what all the fuss about jedi is they aren't THAT hard to kill,there are ways to beat them you just have to figure it out. Everyone just wants to have the ability to pwnz0r without having to use any tactics at all.





I know but most people would rather whine then actually come up with some new strategies.






Drax'el - 2nd Imp MBH of Ket - Retired
Reznik - Smuggler
Ruarc - Elder Jedi
16BitHero
Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:14 am
#39






Gillik wrote:





16BitHero wrote:





Gillik wrote:





16BitHero wrote:





Gillik wrote:





16BitHero wrote:





Gillik wrote:
Thought smuggler had one. But still last ditch n feign death make smuggler good to have for a rifleman.






Yeah especially if they concussion shot get 20m away Sniper shot, then KD panic shot get 20m away again sniper shot... rinse repeat


But people are to hungover on the fact that OMGLOL!!!1 BH and CM = god, people need to learn how to experiment with other profesions.







Most people go cm for healing just cause you can get the healing line of cm for less sp then doc n cms have the nice AOE heal.





Yeah you're right I guess I get to cought up in the fact that you really don't need CM if you're a smuggler since you have mezzez and stuff so I tend to take it out on the people who aren't smuggler with CM something I need to stop.




Nah just blame all the problems with the game on jedi. Everyone else does.






Lol, TBH I don't see what all the fuss about jedi is they aren't THAT hard to kill,there are ways to beat them you just have to figure it out. Everyone just wants to have the ability to pwnz0r without having to use any tactics at all.





I know but most people would rather whine then actually come up with some new strategies.





Hence this thread



Psyrick Topher


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