Rifleman Archive
Thread: Its official We Lost it
Uberhamster wrote:
This post makes me giggle.
I believe the original poster saw this:
"The second aspect of the Combat balance will be the HAM redesign. A very critical part of the overall combat rebalance is the change to the functionality of the HAM system. This change will allow a greater ease in balancing overall HAM costs for weapons and special moves. It will also allow Mind to be removed as a special damage type and place equal emphasis on Health, Action and Mind pools for both abilities and damage."
And read only this:
"...allow Mind to be removed as a special damage type..."
I think the bulk of what the Devs were referring to was that with the regenerative HAMs for specials, spending mind on specials is no longer as critical as it is/was.
But I mean wow... can't we save the Publish 8 screaming for publish 8?
I interprept that in two ways. First the mind will now be healable making it like all the other professions. Second that no one will be able to directly dmg the mind anymore(I doubt this one).
Either way I predict the combat system will be severely borked.
So why make if even easier?
Im still baffled at this but i cant really tell much till i see it work ingame...
its all worries and speculation irght now ...and i hate that...
THE ANTICIPATION IS KILLING US!! ARRRRRrrRGHHHHHHH
HabeasCorpus wrote:
the inherent weaknesses of the mind pool made it so that rifleman could win hands down in PvP very fast. The weakness of the mind pool never benefitted my random damage I did with Pistoleer. all my fights would last 10-15 minutes, and It was all about who hit their muon downer first.
If you are upset that you can no longer just target the mind, you are really just upset that you no longer can rule in PvP. I don't think you were ever meant to.
What you just said only enforces what we have said all along. it is not the mind that is the major problem but buffs and stims that you can use at novice medic that heall 400-500 dmg a pop. Top that off with 80% comp armor and battles last forever. Rifleman unfortunately dodged both those bullets and thus because of how the system works are overpowered.
However if you add in mind healing guess what, combat becomes who has the most stims and that is it.
First I highly doubt that they will remove headshot, it is all that rifleman really have when you break it down.
Everything else hits random pools, and is not reliable.
Even pistols have bodyshot, and carbines have action shots, the interpretation is off.
Next, healing mind......ok....using stims cost.......mind......allowing the healing of mind allows for toooo many broken loops and will make many things insane.
So please, pub 7 hasn't even hit yet and alot changed from the time it was first spoken of until now....from the wookie armor to putting packs on vendors so alot can happen and it is always in flux.
Relax
HARP00N wrote:
they are removing mind as a special attack, that means no headshots for rifleman, no eye shot for BH
Yet I am willing to bet that we will still be drawing out of them mind pool
Karnoths wrote:
SweetShotArch wrote:
Iagree with the above post. With my Jawa i can do 300-400 damage in PvP with Strafe 2 at once a second on a huge group of people. They cant even heal fast enough to keep theirselves alive. So this whole arguement is pointless. If you rely on Head Shot anyways then learn to fight better. HAM costs are pointless cause buffed, on muon, brandy, and ryschate i use 0 HAM each shot. Rifleman is overpowered. Yes, you may say you are working and other professions need to be fixed... this is only somewhat true. Yes others need to be fixed and rifleman works great, but it is beyond what a rifleman is supposed to be. Right now, a rifleman is a Pistoleer and a Rifleman all in 1 with a great stun weapon and the only ap3 weapon in the game. You (we) should not be able to have as good of accuracy at close range as we do, and we should not have the amount of speed as we do. Flame me as you wish, but i realize we are overpowered and can actually admit it. And about state changes, we can Stun and Dizzy. No KD isnt a big deal because we have sufficient Ranged Defense (+84 at master i think not sure) to make people miss enough to avoid getting KD'd.
Dead on! With our mind attacks even a newbie with no playing skill at all can kill another player in seconds(like BH eye shot). Anyone complaining about ths "fix" wants to learn how to fight properly... All proffs are in the same boat here, Dont think you can out dammage a pistoleer? Or get hit by a carbineer at long range more times than you hit him?
What are you talking about? Take a Jawa at 5.0 speed firing Headshot3 at 1.8x delay and a Novice Rifleman at +30 personal speed mod. That would mean that he could fire that shot every 6.3 seconds. I cannot recall killing anyone in less than 3 shots unless they were already close to death. Three shots would take 12.6 seconds to complete at 6.3 seconds, with another 6.3 seconds before they could fire again (18.9 seconds). And that assumes all three shot hit. Snce when has a Novice rifleman been accurate enough to consistently hit 3 consecutive shots while moving, as most PvP battles take place on the move? In seconds?
Seems to me the advise Masters give on these boards all the time is that you should avoid PvP like the plague until you reach Master. No offense, but this is a ridiculous satement.
HARP00N wrote:
they are removing mind as a special attack, that means no headshots for rifleman, no eye shot for BH
Sorry, but that's totally incorrect. It is said that mind will be removed as a 'special damage type'.
Learn to read and stop making things up.
mka wrote:
HARP00N wrote:
they are removing mind as a special attack, that means no headshots for rifleman, no eye shot for BH
Sorry, but that's totally incorrect. It is said that mind will be removed as a 'special damage type'.
Learn to read and stop making things up.
How do you interprept this?
mka wrote:
Pub 8 isn't even on TC yet and you'er already complaining?
Way to go
You know what the biggest problem with this game is? When the developers make a change, they don't give you any explanation as to why they are doing it. They just make some random off hand and completely ambiguous remark regarding Publish 8 changes and it makes everybody nervous and second guess what the hell the developers are doing. They either need to give us a full explanation or just keep their mouths shut until such a time as when they are ready to explain what they are planning.