Rifleman Archive
Thread: Its official We Lost it
MarcoRenaldi
Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:37 pm
#14
well atleast now I can forget about using HS3 and jsut use flushing 2 and SS2.
With this system in place combat will be won by the docs who can fully heal themselves while buffed and those who have crates upon crates of stims.
tometaophion
Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:25 pm
#15
Btw to the commando, I want you to go to the rifle tree and read the title for 'Rifle Abilities IV'
Its Not Carbineer
Its Not Commando
Its RIFLEMAN
SweetShotArch
Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:30 pm
#16
Iagree with the above post. With my Jawa i can do 300-400 damage in PvP with Strafe 2 at once a second on a huge group of people. They cant even heal fast enough to keep theirselves alive. So this whole arguement is pointless. If you rely on Head Shot anyways then learn to fight better. HAM costs are pointless cause buffed, on muon, brandy, and ryschate i use 0 HAM each shot. Rifleman is overpowered. Yes, you may say you are working and other professions need to be fixed... this is only somewhat true. Yes others need to be fixed and rifleman works great, but it is beyond what a rifleman is supposed to be. Right now, a rifleman is a Pistoleer and a Rifleman all in 1 with a great stun weapon and the only ap3 weapon in the game. You (we) should not be able to have as good of accuracy at close range as we do, and we should not have the amount of speed as we do. Flame me as you wish, but i realize we are overpowered and can actually admit it. And about state changes, we can Stun and Dizzy. No KD isnt a big deal because we have sufficient Ranged Defense (+84 at master i think not sure) to make people miss enough to avoid getting KD'd.
PyscoJuggalo
Sat Mar 13, 2004 12:57 am
#17
Thank the gods mind is healable, now they can see the flaws in their system: buffs, armor, and the friggin 75% PVP reduction.
Ya it's going to make Doc/Whatever the number 1 Template, but atleast mind damage being gone removes the bullseye from us(I think, err hope, err pray, err sacrifice human sacrifices)
Gimperial666
Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:10 am
#18
Ok now just breathe a sigh of releaif that your all not swordsmen...
3 second cap on my riffle...sure i can deal with that...No headshots..well thats a bit rougher....but no mind hits wiht my melee wepon?? aw man homie....
we poor poor swordsmen are really getting it up the nerf hole on this one...
What good are we now? no stat effects, terrible defence(and state defence),poor accuracy, and now no mind damage ... gee that was one of the only things i liked about swordsman...
Hmmmmm ya know worlds of warcraft sounds nice... so does lineage2 ... warhamer online looks fun too...
swg better not shoot itself in the foot with this one...cuz im not grinding anyhting else.
3 second cap on my riffle...sure i can deal with that...No headshots..well thats a bit rougher....but no mind hits wiht my melee wepon?? aw man homie....
we poor poor swordsmen are really getting it up the nerf hole on this one...
What good are we now? no stat effects, terrible defence(and state defence),poor accuracy, and now no mind damage ... gee that was one of the only things i liked about swordsman...
Hmmmmm ya know worlds of warcraft sounds nice... so does lineage2 ... warhamer online looks fun too...
swg better not shoot itself in the foot with this one...cuz im not grinding anyhting else.
Karnoths
Sat Mar 13, 2004 4:18 am
#19
SweetShotArch wrote:Iagree with the above post. With my Jawa i can do 300-400 damage in PvP with Strafe 2 at once a second on a huge group of people. They cant even heal fast enough to keep theirselves alive. So this whole arguement is pointless. If you rely on Head Shot anyways then learn to fight better. HAM costs are pointless cause buffed, on muon, brandy, and ryschate i use 0 HAM each shot. Rifleman is overpowered. Yes, you may say you are working and other professions need to be fixed... this is only somewhat true. Yes others need to be fixed and rifleman works great, but it is beyond what a rifleman is supposed to be. Right now, a rifleman is a Pistoleer and a Rifleman all in 1 with a great stun weapon and the only ap3 weapon in the game. You (we) should not be able to have as good of accuracy at close range as we do, and we should not have the amount of speed as we do. Flame me as you wish, but i realize we are overpowered and can actually admit it. And about state changes, we can Stun and Dizzy. No KD isnt a big deal because we have sufficient Ranged Defense (+84 at master i think not sure) to make people miss enough to avoid getting KD'd.
Dead on! With our mind attacks even a newbie with no playing skill at all can kill another player in seconds(like BH eye shot). Anyone complaining about ths "fix" wants to learn how to fight properly... All proffs are in the same boat here, Dont think you can out dammage a pistoleer? Or get hit by a carbineer at long range more times than you hit him?
mka
Sat Mar 13, 2004 4:22 am
#20
Pub 8 isn't even on TC yet and you'er already complaining?
Way to go 
valetman
Sat Mar 13, 2004 4:55 am
#21
The original poster is complaining about one aspect of the combat rebalance(Ham system) and relating it to the current combat mechanics.
Please understand, the whole thing will bear no resemblance to what you know at the minute.
Until this is on test and those of us who have created test characters to explore this can try it, it is pointless moaning.
I will bet money one one thing though, noone of any profession will be soloing krayts after this, which, in my opinion , is a good thing.
christianohamtaro
Sat Mar 13, 2004 7:35 am
#24
Ifmind is healable, then these nerfing losers would stop complain that we hit on stat that is unhealable.
MarcoRenaldi
Sat Mar 13, 2004 8:52 am
#25
I dont think people realize the huge stim fest that will pop up now. Mind aside from being a easy target to hit was the limiter in PVP/PVE in made sure that you could not fight forever. IF you get into a huge fight and hvae to keep stiming yourself gues what you will more than likely run out of mind before stims.
Now people will carry have /heal damage in one slot and /heal mind in the other. THe only hope is that you can do insane amount of dmg very little time, BUT with the current Armor/buff system this is next to impossible unless the beef up stun weapons.
I swear I am quiting if this goes live as a i fear it will.
Uberhamster
Sat Mar 13, 2004 9:30 am
#26
This post makes me giggle. 
I believe the original poster saw this:
"The second aspect of the Combat balance will be the HAM redesign. A very critical part of the overall combat rebalance is the change to the functionality of the HAM system. This change will allow a greater ease in balancing overall HAM costs for weapons and special moves. It will also allow Mind to be removed as a special damage type and place equal emphasis on Health, Action and Mind pools for both abilities and damage."
And read only this:
"...allow Mind to be removed as a special damage type..."
I think the bulk of what the Devs were referring to was that with the regenerative HAMs for specials, spending mind on specials is no longer as critical as it is/was.
But I mean wow... can't we save the Publish 8 screaming for publish 8?
I believe the original poster saw this:
"The second aspect of the Combat balance will be the HAM redesign. A very critical part of the overall combat rebalance is the change to the functionality of the HAM system. This change will allow a greater ease in balancing overall HAM costs for weapons and special moves. It will also allow Mind to be removed as a special damage type and place equal emphasis on Health, Action and Mind pools for both abilities and damage."
And read only this:
"...allow Mind to be removed as a special damage type..."
I think the bulk of what the Devs were referring to was that with the regenerative HAMs for specials, spending mind on specials is no longer as critical as it is/was.
But I mean wow... can't we save the Publish 8 screaming for publish 8?