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Thread: does the skill mod block work?????????

EvilTwilek
Sat Jul 31, 2004 10:49 am
#27

Block has been broken since beta. But any time I would tell this to the riflemen correspondant they would ask lame q's liek what is the role of rifles in the revamp. /clap you all are retards.



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Ackehece
Sat Jul 31, 2004 12:10 pm
#28



XJ7 I will try to be on during much of Sunday and Monday for testing - worked friday for 14 hours and expect to do the same for saturday ^_^ ah well the life of the working stiff!




Block is a rifleman and a pikeman skill which when activated stops 50% of the damage you would recieve from getting through to hit you the target, it does not block 100% of the damage unlike the pistoleer/fencer dodge nor the carbineer/swordsman defence counterattack. SO yes even if block works as intended (and i feel it probably is) you will take substantial damage anyway - at least our defence does not superseed our attacks like dodge used to but XJ7 and I will test to see how often in 100 or 200 shots it activates against master rifle and against master rifle master pike .

Message Edited by Ackehece on 07-31-2004 01:12 AM



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XaverriJade7
Sat Jul 31, 2004 2:18 pm
#29






Ackehece wrote:



XJ7 I will try to be on during much of Sunday and Monday for testing - worked friday for 14 hours and expect to do the same for saturday ^_^ ah well the life of the working stiff!





I understand many of you have real life stuff to deal with(unlike me for the time being ). I'll be around on Sunday and Monday, so take your time.





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Ackehece
Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:49 pm
#30





First off - Block does not appear to be broken, not very effective but not broken after several hundred shots and much personal damage on both XJ and I we have this to report



1) block does work

2) block does stack with rifle and pike

3) higher accuracy does definitely allow you to avoid the defences more often

4) Cob + block is quite amazing

5) rifle block by itself is very weak at the best of times and worse vs a high accuracy opponent

6) block does definitely reduce incoming damage by the advertised 50% though damage does not show in the combat spam for the blocked shot (it does over the head though)




ok now on to the data!





novice pistol vs rifle block (rifle)

43 hits 14 blocks


novice pistolvs rifle/pike block (pike)

25 hits 20 blocks


novice pistol vs rifle/pike block +cob (pike)

8 hits 48 blocks



master rifle vs rifle/pike block (pike)

34 hits 6 blocks


master rifle vs rifle/pike block +cob (pike)

40 hits 41 blocks


master rifle vs rifle block (rifle)

102 hits 6 blocks





therefore: Block does work, just not very useful vs master attacks with just rifleman block mods




I have been informed that I may have miscounted a little - the variance is slight but I will correct it when i get some sleep and finish work!(working from screen shots >_< *bonks self *must turn on /log before I do a test like this again!

Message Edited by Ackehece on 08-03-2004 08:26 AM



"And these blast points, too accurate for Sandpeople. Only
Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise"
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Ackehece - Eclipse | Tife - TestCenter




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vonbraat
Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:30 am
#31

block was certainly working for my opponent today got him down to like 200 mind, and then he started blocking every friggin shot

this was rifleman vs rifleman btw.



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Joost1000
Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:26 am
#32






Barb-Wire wrote:

block only works when using COB since rifle has no COB skill it does not work when holding a rifle.






yep that is why it is complety useless
MukeLandrunner
Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:36 am
#33

i just got back after not playing for 2 monthes, it appears the 'FOTM' is 'CoB', by i have no idea what that means, could someone clue me in please? thanks.
DomMantell
Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:06 am
#34

CoB is Center of Being a melee skill that increases the frequency of dodge/counterattack/block

I did some block testing a while back & posted the results in this message:

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=rifleman&message.id=60841

Block works fine and seems to be far more effective against melee than it is against ranged attacks
UWSkeletor
Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:37 am
#35

What I never got around to testing or looking into is do armor resists come into play even with block? So does block stop 50% then armor resists come into play? I'm guessing it does but never bothered checking.



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DomMantell
Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:43 am
#36

There used to be a bug where if you blocked an attack any damage would bypass your armor, but I'm pretty certain that was fixed a while back (and may have been due to the armor hole bug anyway).

Currently if I do block an attack I do get the message that my armor absorbed damage, so I'd say its working fine
YeorgMaster
Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:19 am
#37

It would be extremelyinteresting if someone did one of these tests again, but this time with and without pikatta pie, which is rumored to boost not only the primary but also the secondary defences.


If, as I suspect, Pikatta pie also increases the block mod, then we have (for a pure RM)


+80 in skill

+25 in SEA

-----

105block

x 55% pikatta pie


162 effective block skill


Yeorg
Ackehece
Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:44 am
#38

might be worth a test. but wow... necro!



"And these blast points, too accurate for Sandpeople. Only
Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise"
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Ackehece - Eclipse | Tife - TestCenter




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Ackehece
Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:45 am
#39



any rifle/pike masters on eclipse - since kezia is gone... T_T

and probably as important to this test... anyone with a +25 block suit and this test will not be valid beyond the day CURB goes live...

Message Edited by Ackehece on 02-11-2005 09:47 AM



"And these blast points, too accurate for Sandpeople. Only
Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise"
Rifleman Correspondent | Galactic Senator from Naboo
Ackehece - Eclipse | Tife - TestCenter




[--Riflewoman are all about sex drugs and rock and roll --]
Encoded as per Garva




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