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Thread: does the skill mod block work?????????

UWSkeletor
Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:34 am
#14

block still works even without COB running, you just don't see it as often as if you do have COB running



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Kachada
Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:07 am
#15

Block works with rifle equipped. I'm just a rifleman, but I still block attacks. Not all that often, but I do.

CoB is a melee-only thing as I undestand it, a way to have defenses boosted for a short bit while they try and close distance on range targets. The CoB macros are probably an example of the system not working as intended.

Of course Block, and the other secondary defenses, don't work if you've been intimidated.



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Barb-Wire
Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:23 am
#16

well when we say it doesnt work what we mean is there is no point in it. it is infrequent i may see one block or two in an hour of fighting. to me that is broken and not working. i would expect at master block for rifles would block around 40% of the attacks. as it is now block may stop less than one half of one percent.



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XaverriJade7
Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:27 am
#17

Ackehece, nothing big planned for today for me, so give me a shout if you're free to do this test. I'm anxious to see what we can learn





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Kachada
Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:32 am
#18

yes, and please report back your findings.



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UWSkeletor
Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:54 am
#19






Barb-Wire wrote:

well when we say it doesnt work what we mean is there is no point in it. it is infrequent i may see one block or two in an hour of fighting. to me that is broken and not working. i would expect at master block for rifles would block around 40% of the attacks. as it is now block may stop less than one half of one percent.







then yep I'll agree to that, although I block a little more frequently with Pikeman as well. But even when block works it's not that great, you still take 50% of the damage, so it's clearly much worse than Dodge or Counterattack.


Since block is so much worse than dodge or counterattack, we should be blocking as much as a pistoleer or fencer dodges, and they should be dodging as much as a rifleman blocks, but, I suppose since we do have much better offensive capabilities than them it balances out.




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Barb-Wire
Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:01 am
#20






UWSkeletor wrote:





Barb-Wire wrote:

well when we say it doesnt work what we mean is there is no point in it. it is infrequent i may see one block or two in an hour of fighting. to me that is broken and not working. i would expect at master block for rifles would block around 40% of the attacks. as it is now block may stop less than one half of one percent.







then yep I'll agree to that, although I block a little more frequently with Pikeman as well. But even when block works it's not that great, you still take 50% of the damage, so it's clearly much worse than Dodge or Counterattack.


Since block is so much worse than dodge or counterattack, we should be blocking as much as a pistoleer or fencer dodges, and they should be dodging as much as a rifleman blocks, but, I suppose since we do have much better offensive capabilities than them it balances out.








i agree.


i thinkit should just be scrapped altogether and replaced with a PVE style hunting skill. maybe somehting that augments firing from a concealed position. or somehting you can use like an advanced form of warning shot that will actually work.


perhaps an attack that can lower enemy creature resists across the board by 30% for a short period of time. dunno im just softballing ideas heh




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XaverriJade7
Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:01 am
#21

I cannot remember where, but I do recall seeing something(fairly recently) where a Dev has claimed that they do feel Block is not balanced with Dodge or Counterattack and that a solution is in the works. I'll look around for it.





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XaverriJade7
Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:12 am
#22

I guess 4 months ago will have to do for 'fairly recently'


Anyways, here's the message I remember seeing.Hopefully we can expect an increase in the frequency of Block occuring with the revamp. Or something better





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Barb-Wire
Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:08 am
#23

yeah it will liekly be part of the infamous combat balance but by then i will be in a TIE Interceptor with any luck



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leillani
Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:26 am
#24

Liwiwo and Myself ran serveral tests and it turns out that when i block i still take armour resist hence i still get hit.


so block is a broken defence mod for rifleman.


as for pike i do not know.



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Kachada
Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:39 am
#25

damn. that sucks.



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UWSkeletor
Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:56 am
#26






leillani wrote:

Liwiwo and Myself ran serveral tests and it turns out that when i block i still take armour resist hence i still get hit.


so block is a broken defence mod for rifleman.


as for pike i do not know.



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That's not broken, that's "Working as intended" according to the developers.


Block stops 50% of the damage from hitting you.





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