Rifleman Archive
Thread: mindshot 2 and headshot 3 had no effect
DracoRain
Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:41 am
#14
Stun protection is no higher than 40% and psgs no higher than 47%. Read my other post. You don't just add the two together for 87%, that's not how it works. Some rifles may be better than a jawa. But not the average T-21 against 90% flat helmet with energy.
Mangiacapra
Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:46 am
#15
no contest with what your sayin about psg's, t21 is horrible for pvp, especially against fencers and the like, since you will rarely get to stand still at your ideal range and fire off shot after shot. T21 = pve or pvp if u have sum1 to keep your target busy, otherwise you'll be running to kite or stay away from that acklay baton in which case the mods will make your t21 next to useless.
Mangiacapra
Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:48 am
#16
obv written by a novice pvp'er who never cross prof templated and has no fire weapons on their server, feel sorry for ya :/
Mangiacapra
Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:49 am
#17
if you think for one second you can win against good pvpers with a rifle alone you are very VERY mistaken. Don't tell me for once second you can do it without master doc or cm to complement it, if FOTM is your thing.
Message Edited by Mangiacapra on 08-19-2004 07:51 PM
XaverriJade7
Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:51 am
#18
Mangiacapra wrote:
no contest with what your sayin about psg's, t21 is horrible for pvp, especially against fencers and the like, since you will rarely get to stand still Don't ever do this in PvP. at your ideal range and fire off shot after shot. T21 = pve or pvp if u have sum1 to keep your target busy, otherwise you'll be running to kite or stay away from that acklay baton in which case the mods will make your t21 next to useless. With low Stun resists, the Jawa is good. However, that is not often the case in PvP anymore. The T-21 will often be better(maybe only a little), but its AP3 is not something to ignore. If accuracy and PSGs are a problem- use the DXR-6b. It'll fix both of them for you just by using it
Mangiacapra
Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:54 am
#19
I agree, you never know what an opponent is using armour wise, i'd plum for stun if your pressured, however if you have a few seconds to try, switch between your t21 or dxr just to check the damge, if they are weaker to one choose the highest damage type on your current opponent, t21 is still hard work though. After all is said target your opponents weaknesses, how good you are at working them out quickly can win you many fights.
Message Edited by Mangiacapra on 08-19-2004 07:56 PM
XaverriJade7
Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:56 am
#20
Mangiacapra wrote:
obv written by a novice pvp'er who never cross prof templated and has no fire weapons on their server, feel sorry for ya :/
I quit PvP for now until the system is fixed. Though I'll have you know, I could beat the very best PvPers using only my rifle with the MR/TKM template. Never make assumptions about people just for disagreeing with you.
And if you want some weapons:
XaverriJade7
Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:57 am
#21
Mangiacapra wrote:
if you think for one second you can win against good pvpers with a rifle alone you are very VERY mistaken. Don't tell me for once second you can do it without master doc or cm to complement it, if FOTM is your thing.
Message Edited by Mangiacapra on 08-19-2004 07:51 PM
See above reply. A rifle is all you need. Other weapons will help, but they are not neccessary for someone that knows what they are doing. 
Message Edited by XaverriJade7 on 08-19-2004 02:58 PM
Gawzeera
Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:28 pm
#22
thanks for all the info guys. much appreciated.
I dont normaly PvP, infact I try to stay far away from it cause i know i'm gonna get slaughtered. just this one time i figured I would be a good citezen and try to help out the NPC militia and a couple of other players i was grouped with.
RebRifle
Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:28 pm
#23
ThaContemplativePimp wrote:
Dude come on? A T21 in pvp?
Brandy: +430 min/focus/willpower x 2
Canape: +700 focus/willpower x 3(2 maybe)
80/80/80/70 Composite: 80% energy resists(could be sliced to 90%)
64% energy PSG(can also be sliced): etc.
Use a jawa or dxr.
dude a jawa in pvp? people wear psg's now that have huge stun protection not to mention stun armor. THeyare worthless.
Darkatrina
Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:41 pm
#24
Maybe as said jawa was weapon of choice in past no way is it now.
A good powered up T21 will tear chunks. I think u must have hit someone stuffed and buffed to te eyeballs.
Mangiacapra
Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:03 am
#25
experienced pvp player vs another equally experienced pvp player, what's going to decide it? DOT weapons of course, just like any other game like this, items make the player when you get to a higher level. Kind of makes my points though, you wouldnt normally beat a number people who you will beat with those dot weapons. 8)
OditeFosore
Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:08 am
#26
It's funny, I have a guildie who is about the best PVP guy I've seen. Player-sponsored duel competitions - he's won several and come close in others and always with a different template. With 1 weapon equipped for the entire duel, he won a contest against another, excellent PVP guy. That weapon was a krayt T21 and he kited every opponent. Was the most boring way to have won a duel competition ever. T21's are the highest damage weapons riflemen have, even with PSG's unless you are using DOTs or have an outrageous DXR6. Speed capped, kiting, defense stacked riflemen are still very effective against non-jedis, even using T21's. My $.02.