Rifleman Archive
Thread: Expect us to get nerfed.....
Grambacca
Thu May 19, 2005 9:52 am
#14
PyscoJuggalo wrote:
I just want the nerfs to end, 2 full years is enough in my book
I don't want Stopping Shot, or Crit, or even Jedi whom I despise above all professions nerfed..... I would just like to see fixes.
AMEN to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cookie-Eater
Thu May 19, 2005 11:11 am
#15
Im a MasterPistoleer/Master BH (Respec from Rifleman/Merchant) and Im not whinning about no range crap, Im happy with my 35m Range ( HINT TO WHINNING PISTOLEERS: Use bust run you Retards) (Tip for Riflemen/women: Keep at it 
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Taln2
Thu May 19, 2005 11:27 am
#16
As a master smuggler and a master rifleman, I vow to combat whiny Jedi and beat them into the floor with my 70m roots and nukes.
Actually even with those, I'll probably still get owned by master defenders. They have absolutely no right to whine insofar as I see it, 310 accuracy still isn't enough to hit and damage them past a point where a single heal wouldn't nullify all damage.
BTW, there are actually pistols in the game with a 50-60m range.
Mmaxx
Thu May 19, 2005 11:37 am
#17
Taln2 wrote:
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BTW, there are actually pistols in the game with a 50-60m range.
really? what are they? I know there is a commando launcher pistol that goes to 45 but you need to be a commando to use that. What pistols have a range greater then 35m?
Nifty
Thu May 19, 2005 1:57 pm
#18
where do you see this whining? There hasn't been one thread about this in our forum.
As the devs said, the ranges are functioning as intended. The only gripe I have is that the range increments are too big. should be 65, 55, 45.
Zekk-
Thu May 19, 2005 2:01 pm
#19
rmemebr what the devs said eventhough the CU is live it is basically still in Beta, so it wouldnt be a nerf just a fix. And besides since some your ideas are pistoleers should use a rifle for the distance, well than rifles should use pistols for closeups. Oh and i really dont like being hit for 1k damage too.
TheLastV8
Thu May 19, 2005 2:24 pm
#20
if they give us a gamebreaking minimum range distance on rifles they better reduce dps on pistols by atleast 200%.
And open up /respec again.
And open up /respec again.
mox-the-rebel
Thu May 19, 2005 3:19 pm
#21
well they shouldt nerf us damn it.. rifles are way more powerfull then pistols.. why would a hmm lts compare to real life 
A little gun comparred to a nice big sniper rifle... hmm which would go further? 
TheSillyOne
Thu May 19, 2005 4:11 pm
#22
mox-the-rebel wrote:
well they shouldt nerf us damn it.. rifles are way more powerfull then pistols.. why would a hmm lts compare to real life
A little gun comparred to a nice big sniper rifle... hmm which would go further?
you have a t-21 that is as tall as you are and you're telling me it's realistic that you can shoot me (with all the accuracy and power of any of your specials) at point blank range while i'm shooting you in the eye? I'm sorry but the end of the barrel of that rifle (should you manage to even raise it) is about 2 feet behind me. The only damage you should be causing is maybe some possible nerve deafness.
Do i think rifles should have a minimum range? I don't know. I haven't really thought it through but the idea that a rifle is just as effective at point blank range is rediculous. Perhaps when you get into the 10m/15m range you should have to use a bayonette or some other melee stylecombat at a significant reduction to damage dealt.
Long range is supposed to be your specialty and short range is supposed to be your weakness. Rifles are not showing a significant weakness in close quarters combat which is probably where the complaints come in. You can do anything that a pistol can do while wielding a rifle (assuming you have the skills to have the specials) but you can not do everything that a rifle can do while wielding a pistol. I'm assuming most folks would reasonably define that as unfair.
Perhaps instead of implementing a minimum range for rifles they should extend all ranged combat to be effective at 64 meters (oh wait, that's how it was before and it was decided that the range on weapons should play a bigger role in combat---yeah, i think you need a minimum EFFECTIVE range)
Rakos_Rokarr
Thu May 19, 2005 4:29 pm
#23
so wait half of this profession has gone to hell because of how broken it is and people want to nerf it? someone's been sniffing too much powder
Cookie-Eater
Thu May 19, 2005 4:39 pm
#24
Rakos_Rokarr wrote:
so wait half of this profession has gone to hell because of how broken it is and people want to nerf it? someone's been sniffing too much powderHas to die for this game to function...
TalKurgan
Fri May 20, 2005 12:21 am
#25
How long does it take to close a 30m gap?
I wouldn't mind being penalized at short ranges if I had more range to work with, but even 80m is too short.
How long does it take to close a 45m gap?
Kevie
Fri May 20, 2005 5:05 pm
#26
PyscoJuggalo wrote:I have seen pistol weilders agure this now, which makes me mad! I thought us non-jedi professions had some decency for one another, I thought we had each others backs for once after these 2 years of nerfing that lead to nothing but continued imbalance.....
But if we have to lose short range, well so be it! Let them burn in hades for it though! We should then ask our DPS to be hired or theirs to be lowered.I remember reverse kiting with the 2.5 times melee damage, it was'nt pretty
i've seen riflemen complain too, don't pigeon-hole one profession into being whiners
but i don't think you guys will ever get a nerf in this regard
first, a pistoleer can use a rifle (and fairly well i might add, as the pistol-specific mods aren't that high in the pistol trees)
second, rifles have horrible accuracy at close range, and horrible defenses
sure you start off the fight further away you've got a chance, but a good root, a rifle (or my annihilator pistol) and i can close in and take you out just as easily as you can from far away
imo things are pretty balanced