Rifleman Archive

Come on guys

no need to get personal and inssult feloow rifleman.

I think rifleman suck in combat with creatures and NPC's due to the massive amounts of pools they have, but in PvP, wher mind is gerneally the neglected one, we can do massive amounts of damage that cant be healed and reasonable quickly with a reasonable weapon. I havent event tried a T21 yet.

And like many have said, we have to wait and see when everyone has leveled up, got better armour, got better weapons, etc..and then see how everything works. We jsut dont know all the facts yet when PvP is concerned. Against creatures we suck, big time, got done in by a paralope yesterday, that was so embarrassing : was ganked by about 5 of em.

Anyways, i think PvP is swg is not like what we once knew, it has evolved, and with it we have to evolve. PvP is no longer one on one, it is army against army, tactics will now have to be better deployed in a real PvP combat and that is the way it should be, not the better skilled beating the lesser skilled (they should) but tactics should play a significant part in PvP or else you get the hardcore high end players greifing everyone. Trust me, read the Bloodfin boards and you will see what i mean.

I have not even made novice Rifleman yet. As a rifle specialist I can say this. Mind shot does not do much acctual damage but makes the enemy bleed and have slow pool recovery. Headshot on the other hand can be devestating. I had a friendly duel with someone and delivered over 1200 mind pool damage in 1 shot. Also keep in mind this is with a laser rifle with a max damage of 248. Also if I remember correctly Sniper Shot is used to kill incopacitated enemies. I may be wrong. Being a rifleman is dangerous work and definatly not an un-fair strength.

Po-Mo

Eclipse

You did not headshot someone for 1200 points of damage with a 248 max damage weapon, sorry.

yummy0,

This is possible becuase I've done it myself with a rifle rated for similar damage. In the combat window it would show 900'ish damage but the number that floats up over their head would show 1300 or so damage.

Perhaps the first posters concerns would take on some sembalnce of truth if we could actuelly hit things at rifle /range/.

Over on the TC, I posted a thread titled "Ranged WEapons:Great on paper" where I procedded to destroy the ranges in SWG, bit by bit. Complaints that we can kill anything at "range" when "range" is as it stands now a great distance for pistol shots? 64 meters? Do you have any clue what that is in feet? I'm spending thousands of dollars on a RIFLE...a RIFLE....and hundreds of game hours working up a RIFLE tree to gain these nicer abilites, and you want me to feel sorry for you becuase my RIFLE has the same max range as your CDEF pistol? Until SoE fixes weapon ranges, the entire idea of an over powerd rifleman is an oxymoron.

OK either all of you are NOT riflemen or just plain suck some of you that is. My LASER rifle 21-416 dmg base with 6.2 attack speed it is SLICED.

Anyways time for some clarifications MINDSHOT = the shot that bleeds your mind pool HEADSHOT = shot that damages mind pool.

i can get dmgs of 1000-2100 using Headshot2 lying prone at about 40-60ms. mindshot is a set amount of mind bleed dmg usually 200-400.

i can ONE shot just about any Bandit and elimiate and IMP NPC in a couple of Headshots.

I can solo 1 Stormtrooper and survive.

I only have intermediate concealment working on the others but so far this is what i can do with my Precious.

Osiris Zoran

one small note. anythign that gets within 30ms of me I MUST GET UP AND HAUL ASS CAUSE I LL MISS 90% of the time...... also we have a 3x dmg modifer on us for holding a rifle.... we DONT NEED A NERF

I'm a rifleman/ch (I know I know)

If they nerf rifles also (as if they are #$%# gimped enough as it is) I'm going to go to SOE HQ and burn the building down. JOKING! =)

Seriously though, I think it's so stupid that there is a 2x damage increase on me if I'm holding a rifle, yet I can't shoot an inch further than a pistol. will someone please explain this too me? I was doing some missions with a pistoleer buddy of mine and he was STANDING at about 60m from target. I was prone and only had a +5 to hit. He hit almost as much as me....if pistols can shoot as far as rifles (which is a load of stinky poo poo) for the love of God, make give them a MASSIVE penatly to strike. sheesh.

Well with the votes counted closely.. I belive that all the riflemen belive that the "Rifleman" class should not be nerfed! THANK GOD!...lol...Rifleman should be able to put down a person in a pvp battle with one shot. I use a T21.404 dam and 9.9speed... it's slow.. BUT if I hit with headshot2 I hit for like 1300dam.If I miss the other person has almost 10 seconds to pwn me. And that's how the rifleman skill's should be...I think the first guy that made thispost was a newb with a cdef pistol wondering why he got incaped from 64m out. We are range people.. what do you want from us.

Actually, i just wanted to back up something someone else said about damage. I too use a laser rifle ( no one has master WS yet on sunrunner) its damage range is 13-276 and I often get damage rates in the 1200 range. Its the specialty headshot2. Mind you I dont do PvP so It may well only get that high in PvE. I take a hit for this though., my cycle time for this shot is almost 9 seconds and I take 99 mind damage just to fire it off. Killing a nest I oftten have to stop and rest in order to keep using the headshots.

Totokazza, blowing heads in on a server near you

Assinign arguement, all elite combat classes with a pool specific attack can and will be one shooting until they get higher AR armor in the game.

"I hear"

Those two words mean you need to shut the^($*% up.

I hear wookies can shoot fire balls out their assholes, NERF!

I hear BH have an instant death button- NERF!

I just wish if we were prone, undercover, and sneaking, that we wouldn't show up on radar till after we make our first shot. kinda like a PvP version of mask scent.I wanted to do a pure rifleman/ranger combo but now I'm thinking of only training the 2 rifleman and ranger trees and then putting the rest in swordsman.

I agree we should have massive penatlies up close but our long range bonuses should be proplerly bonused to compensate.