Rifleman Archive
Thread: Rifle Macroing, Need advice and locations
Really Physion, if you wanted to be an elite class you would have chosen Bounty Hunter, Creaure Handler or Commando. I can guarantee you Riflepersons struggle to competewith those.
By all means, post your macro code. It might convince SOE to do something about it (unlikely, they are profit-oriented, not player satisfaction-oriented).
I didn't INSULT ANY OF YOU FREAKIN PEOPLE! Scroll up and read for goodness sake..when did I do that? Oh..wait! was it YOU that were insulting ME? Can you read? Are riflemen Illiterate? Stupid morons, good grief...I asked for help, was attacked and defending myself and now all of a sudden "I' am being accused of provoking you all?
Speaking of Illiteracy,
The developers have stated that macro coding is, indeed, a valid form of combat and is NOT....I REPEAT THIS, SORRY YOU CAN'T HEAR ME......HAVE SOMEONE INTERPRET: N...O....T.... CHEATING. You can't even be rude and not be hypocritical of yourself. Yes...read my first post. It's all about attacking you guys..it is, no..really..I mean, can't you tell? Now, since you know I'm right, you'll realize in due time just how stupid you look now, and in order to compensate your your inferiority, you'll continue to badger me to justify what you are saying, even though it is complete crap with no basis other than the fact you are jealous that someone has come up with a way to be productive that doesn't have tons of time on their hands to be Rifle-loser.
I'm being childish, but I don't care.. you people are pathetic. Sure, come hunt me when I'm a Jedi....hahahahah..yea..that would be classic....Take me down...morons.
Confirmation from CSR David and 2 moderators:
Macroing is a valid form of of SWG play/combat, as long as the code does not infringe on any other policy set forth by SWG, meaning you are not aggroing other PvP players or spamming tells as to harass other players. If you do it and it is not affecting anyone, ergo, you are using a valid form of combat.
Sorry to bust your bubble. Oh, yea...that also makes you a liar..doesn't it? I mean, "CSR banned 3 accounts" blah blah..anyone ever tell you lying is wrong?
JK
Anyone else find it ironic, nay, hilarious that we can complain for months about how difficult our class is to level in and are ignored outright by the Devs and the majority of the other clients, yet when someone needs to take up our profession it suddenly becomes a tedious chore.
The road to Jedi begins with un-heartfelt, uncaring, and uninterested work. Should make for some outstanding Jedi... 
jealousy, sure. I finished my char template a long time ago, master sharpshooter included, without having to macro like a limp-**edit**.
Justice would beyour nextholocron telling you master chef. good luck with that. **edit**head.
ah i see, didnt know you could macro a target command
although how you could one-shot something (using non specials!) that gives you 680 xp (that would mean atleast 2000 HP minimum no matter what level you're at) is beyond me... the swarms of butterflies and gnorts outside of Coronet you could do this at, but those give like 50 xp
also, does the game classify you as afk so you get logged out after 45 minutes or so?
lol
i like the part where you say "did i insult any of you? no, i didnt' insult any of you..f*cking morons.."
you also complain about people judging you and being opinionated about you and your methods. how hypocritical can you be?
You're macro'ing your way through a class because YOUR OPINION is that the class is weak and it sucks. "you f*cking moron". you have no idea what this class is like, you haven't given it a chance at all. Why should any of us, who actually LIKE to play as rifleman, give you the time of day after you say how **edit**ty our class is? And don't even think of arguing that in your first post you didn't say that you thought our class was **edit**ty - because setting up a macro that XP's all day and night while you're afk says it all for you. I applauded your ingenuity onthe macro, but f*ck, you're just sad.
I hope you get a force slot and then have your computer fried in an electrical storm anthe minute after.- and if luck will have it, you'll be too broke to repair it and won't be able to play the FS. hehe
on a side note> if you you like to play the 'lone ranger' style game, rifleman is the best of the ranged weapons to do it. you can take down anything near or at master, with a good tank (or alone if you have enough time).
enjoy the grind dipsh|t
"Honey... This I've decided that communicating in marriage is a real grind. I'm gonna put this blowup doll of me on the couch and you can talk to it while I go out and drink some beer. So Dear, Is that alright with you, you f*cking moron?"
But I have to admit that the macro was original.
Physion,
I have to tell you, my friend, that you are way off base here, way off base, and you need to take a breath and look objectively at what you are asking and saying. You are wrong about all this on a couple of levels, and so that things do not get too muddy here, I am going to respond in two different posts.
First, you stated quite correctly that the CSR said, "Macroing is a valid form of SWG play/combat" and none of us would disagree with that statement. I use macros, especially for combat, all the time. Macros are in the game to automate tasks. But that statement was not an unqualified blessing of the use of every macro. They also said that they are valid only "as long as the code does not infringe on any other policy set forth by SWG." So the question is, is what you are doing violating any other policies? And the answer is, yes. You are violating a very specific, unambiguous policy expressly intended to prevent exactly what you are doing. Section 7 of the License agreement says, among other things, "[Y]ou may not use or distribute macros or other programs which would allow unattended game play." Since you said "I left the macro going all night" in one post and that you wanted this info so you could be "PRODUCTIVE when I'm not physically in front of the computer" elsewhere, there is no doubt that you are asking for our help to level by doing unattended play, which that quote from section 7 specifically prohibits.
Therefore, despite your indignation over those of us who recognize that what you are doing violates not only the spirit of the game but also the letter of the license agreement, you are the one who is wrong here. You misinterpreted what the CSR and others were saying. And I find it quite ironic that you would call us illiterate when you click to agree to that provision every time you start the game. Now, I will not call you illiterate, because most of us skim such agreements without full analyzing the details, but it is quite clear that what you are asking for help doing is not legitimate play.
This means that your basic premise, that we were just being unwilling to help you solve a legitimate problem, is wrong. You criticism of us for not helping you was, therefore, also wrong. And, as you will see in my next post, your assertion that we were insulting you and that we were elitist and unhelpful is also dead wrong.
Physion,
As the second part of my response to you, the other thing I would like to address is your contention that we started insulting you. I believe you perceived this, as I said, because you felt that you were doing something completely legitimate but that we were refusing to help you. Jealousy was one of the motives you ascribed to us; elitism was another. But let us look at where the insults started. I did as you requested. I looked back through the posts, and here is what I see.
In your first post, you indicated that you were looking for a way to run your combat macro so that you could grind your way to Master without any effort on your part. The provision forbidding this is in the agreement for a reason. What you are describing is an exploit. You may view this as a clever way to achieve your goals, and, as Jeisyn said, there is ingenuity involved, but it is an exploit nonetheless. It is a way for people to obtain pretty much for free something others, playing the game as it is intended to be played, have to work hard for. To then come to people who are working hard at Mastering a profession that has, arguably, been one of the ones hardest hit by the nerf bat and ask them for help in breezing your way effortlessly to the top of that profession is insulting, whether you recognize it as such or not.
Yet what were the first two responses? XaverriJade7 said that she found it insulting, but instead of attacking you, she offered you encouragement and suggested you find ways to enjoy playing the profession. Jeisyn did say that what you were suggesting was the epitome of laziness. Do you deny that this is a lazy way to achieve a goal? The only lazier way I can think of is to have someone else do it for you, but that is basically what you are doing, isn’t it, letting the game do your work for you. So rather than insulting you, he was just being honest. But he also congratulated you "on your ingenuity" and wished you good luck.
So far, all they have said is that they disagree with what you are doing, and both actually encouraged you in one way or another. Insult you? No, they were just not the responses you wanted. And what was your reaction?
You said, "I HATE Rifleman---when I received my holocrons, I cringed at the fact I would have to wield a Ranged Weapon." You further said "opinions you have would be best kept to yourself." So now, we have gone from our profession not being worth your time to actually being something to be despised. Then you tell us we are not allowed to disagree with your approach and to keep our opinions to ourselves. You do not see this as insulting yet? Then let us continue.
WayneInAustin said it "bothers me too," but he goes on to say that he understands. XaverriJade7 then again, told you that this was a lazy approach and that the intent for this was that it was supposed to be hard, and she challenged your contention that anyone was "judging" you. Yes, you can see resentment in her words, but you have now insulted her twice. And despite that and her obvious resentment at your words, stated that she meant no insult to you and still graciously wished you luck.
Then you posts go from "Sarcasm very much intended," to tell us we "should be in a world to [our] own," and that we are "whiney, jealous, and unhelpful people." And each post gets more and more filled with vitriol, all the while you are demanding that we help you. Never once did you listen to the tone of what was being said. Each post up to the sarcasm had offered you encouragement despite the fact that most disagreed with you completely.
/Rant On
Whiney? You are the one whining about having to grind a profession that we love. Jealous? Of what? Jealousy requires that you are trying to take something that belongs to us. Every rifleman I have seen would be happy to help you achieve your goal legitimately, and people were offering you encouragement. Unhelpful? Again, most riflemen I know would give you the shirt off of their backs. Elitist? You are the one who came to our boards telling us that the profession was not worth your time and asking us to help you to Master such an unworthy task effortlessly. You are the one who threatened to give your macro to newbies so they could master the profession in no time while we, obviously dimwitted, Riflemen claw our way to the top. And you are the one assuming that the rest of us do not know how to build such a macro. Illiterate? You are the one who failed to read the license agreement or any number of a hundred posts on these forums discussing the fact that unattended play violates the agreements.
/Rant Off
Now, I am sorry that you took offense that no one on the boards wanted to help you exploit the game, whether you understood it to be an exploit or not. But I would suggest you get beyond your frustrations and reread what people said in context. They offered you encouragement. They warned you that it was not only a less than desirable way to play, but that doing this could get your account canceled. The only thing they did not do is give you information that they did not feel was right to give, information that had nothing to do with a rifleman question and could be obtained on any board in the forums anyway (i.e., where are the best MOBs that continually respawn and give a certain amount of XP).
So it is you, my friend, who insulted us. It is you who judged us. And it is you who continued to escalate the rhetoric.
But despite all that, I believe I speak for most of us: If you have any questions on how to survive as a rifleman, the best way to gain legitimate XP, the best weapons to use, or any other advice on how to legitimately get to the Master level of this profession, we will be more than happy to help. I know I will. How is that for whiney, jealous, and unhelpful?
how would this work? i dont see how its effective like you say
you sit in a spot where aggro mobs (are they aggro? thats the only way you can attack them, right? you cant macro targetting something) and then you let the auto attack kill the mob
but how do you set the macro to go unarmed as soon as the mob closes on you? Thats not possible... and you'd get less rifle xp right?
and you can still die this way
and you want 500 xp mobs? Those would be white-con mobs. You wont be able to go afk while fighting white cons, you'll die. Unless you have some sort of stim macro thrown in every few seconds, but then you'll drain your mind and you can get in the head...