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Thread: What am I doing wrong? ranger/rifles absolutely sucks.

dalessit
Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:13 am
#14






Wonbad wrote:



btw have you noticed the crowds those ns stalkers have been in of late? i've been seeing them in groups of 10 or more.






Yeah, we took out a couple of those spawns the other night. fun stuff.


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SickSix
Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:45 am
#15

What am I doing wrong? ranger/rifles absolutely sucks.

well of course it does! Ranger+Anything absolutely blows right now. Unless you like the RP aspect of ranger, or just need an alt to harvest for your crafter, Ranger blows bantha poodoo! it's actually a hinderance to someone who is pure combat oriented or interested in PvP.



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DaxHerder
Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:18 am
#16

I have both ranged arms. I conceal at 80M I can get four shots off before my mark starts coming towards me. I then KD and maybe spam two more damaging spacials and my target is dead 98% of the time against an evel level target.My gear is not so good I use a Covert Retaliation hits conceal shots for around 1200 then my damaging specials hit for around 900. Important to have some healing in any combat template also.



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SpecForceRanger
Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:27 am
#17

I was MRanger, MBH, SL0300 and it worked pretty well for soloing everything, even after the PDart Fix. Before that, I played MRanger-MCarbs for several months.


If you aren't interested in PvP, then go MRanger, MCarbines. You can spam specials faster and with more accuracy. Since most combat is within 50m, the lower range of carbines vs. rifles doesn't matter much.


First you need tocamo up (avoid unwanted aggro).

Next, get to about 45m and lob a P-Dart. Now if you have MBH, you can spam Adv. Critical, Torso. Once the P-Dart wears off, hit him with the BH Knock Down, immediately followed by an Advanced Critical for 1000+ Damage. Throw another P-Dart and repeat cycle. Obviously, you need to shoot and move to keep outside of 30m.


If you know a doctor, then get their combat speed buff. As a MRanger, MBH your speed will be low. As a MRanger MCarbines the buff is less important.


That said, MRanger - MRifles should still be able to solo most creatures if you use similar tactics to those described above. Stay at range, use P-Darts. For the more difficult targets, lob glow wire traps as well. You'll hit for more damage. Glow Wire Traps actually work pretty well by taking down the creatures Combat Defenses for a good 30 seconds or so.
coldstar517
Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:15 pm
#18

I respeced from Ranger/Rifles recently. What ought to be a great combo blows right now because ranger is absolutely burried in suck. It burns ALL your skill points and gives you abilities that are either useless (camps), merely convienient (terrain negotiation, tracking, camo) or useful, but totally inferior to similar abilities in other professions (traps).


But anyhow, here's a couple things I learned as MRifle, MRanger:


- Use the ranged arms! Not only do they let you milk that snare with the extra range, but check this out: conceal shot onecritter froma groupfrom outside 65m. Eventually the creature you shoot will discover you. DON'T STAND UP! Just kill it from your stomach. If you stay prone outside 65m from the other critters, they won't agro and you can kill all of them one by one!


- Maskscent/Camo does not help you in fights! It only prevents you from getting in them. As soon as you enter combat all the rulesfor "does it see me/does it not" are exactly the same whether you're camo or not. I've tested. Get the same number of conceals off, every time.


- That P-dart/kneecap shot combo is about the only thing that can keep you alive PVE, but since P-darts are fixed and don't root anymore, its a lot of effort to keep going. And if you get a couple trap failures against that krayt dragon, you're f-ed.


-You can't handle multiple targets, so don't try.


- Get a harvesting droid and drop down to novice scout, which is all you need to use it. This lets you harvest almost as well as master ranger. Since harvesting is the only really unique AND useful ability ranger/scout gets, this gets it for you and only uses 15 skill point instead of uh... all of them.





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Ragao
Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:14 pm
#19

a working adhesive mesh trap would be great.
BobaFettish
Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:18 pm
#20

Rifleman in general, is the suckyest Combat profession in the game.


Compaired with other combat profs, our ability to deal out sustained High damage, is grossly under powered.


We have only two HIGH DAMAGE attacks, compaired to The others who each have atleast 4 - 5 High Damage Specials.


We have Huge restrictions on the Two High Damage Specials that we do have.


The ammount of damage that our conceal & sniper shots do, is only about 40% of the damage that the other profs getwith their High Damage attacks.


Our other specials are as weak as piss, when it comes to damage, the ammount of time they work for & th success rate, compaired with the other combat profs.


All of our shots,havea hugeammount ofAction drain than the equivilents in other Combat professions.


Other Professions can continue to deal out High Damage, even when they are charged in Melee, whereas we cannot, because of the range & cover restrictions on the only two real damage shots we do have.


And Finally, The ammount of damage we do get from our two main specials, is completely underowered, for the ammount of action they take. And for what it costs us to do these attacks, we should not only get more damage out of them "to equel the damage that any other profession can do in the same time", but we should be getting more Concealed shots out than we are now. Atleast 10 more shots while concealed, to make the ammount of damage equel to that of other professions for the ammount of time it takes us to set up.


By the time i set up a concealed attack, got off my 3 rounds, I have done about 70% less damage than the TKA guy that just ran in & started hitting away at the Bad guy, at th same time i started setting up my Concealed attack.





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