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Thread: Futuristic Rifleman Ghuille Suit....
Thats a sweet idea! However, I would suggest the following...
Depending on your sniper level depends on what suit you can make... for example level I in sniping can make a forest ghuille suit (lots of plants, easy to find), level II a plains (ie Naboo) suit (plants fewer and father between), level III a desert (ie, Tantooine) suit (very few plants), level IIII rader deflective suit (hides players from enemy radar)
On each skill level get an increase of +5-10 for conceal, and while wearing the suit conceal shot gets a +20% bonus. I really like the idea of a penalty if using a desert suit in a plains enviroment, etc....
Also I think while wearing the suit you should suffer a movement penalty while standing (heavy suit
). Finally the suit should decay quickly (about 20 - 30 minutes life span) due to plants die quickly when uprooted.
Any thoughts? Any Devs reading this??
Yep I love this idea. though i dont think they should decay really.. surely the side-effect of not being able to equip all pieces of armour would surely counteract the inherent camouflage bonus (like the existing hooded cloaks)?
What about a similar option to the sunglasses? where you de-equip, and choose select colour in order to change the camo colour / style / pattern. I dont have a problem with the lack of starwarsyness.. after all these suits have been used for over 100 years now - why wouldnt they not continue to be used? the rebel spec-ops in Return of the Jedi were wearing camo dusters after all. ![]()
We also need a more appropriate rifle than the t21 as our best wep.. from what i have seen written about it it is more of a squad support wep than a sniper rifle.. one that fires the non-blaster rounds (like the tusken) as its harder to visually trace the shots back to the source. Base the model on the barret .50cal or something.. rather than a circa 1915's Lewis gun...
Depending on your sniper level depends on what suit you can make... for example level I in sniping can make a forest ghuille suit (lots of plants, easy to find), level II a plains (ie Naboo) suit (plants fewer and father between), level III a desert (ie, Tantooine) suit (very few plants), level IIII rader deflective suit (hides players from enemy radar)
I like that idea.... maybe add it to the conceal skill tree. Kinda gives it a more useful feel to it now.
Also I think while wearing the suit you should suffer a movement penalty while standing (heavy suit). Finally the suit should decay quickly (about 20 - 30 minutes life span) due to plants die quickly when uprooted.
I like this idea as well... sufferingan encumberance to movement is a good idea.
I don't think that the suit should decay quickly however. As an advanced technology level that the SWG exhibits I think that you would be able to craft synthetic materials to craft your ghillie suit and not have to rely on decaying biological components
Sandzibarr wrote:
I dont have a problem with the lack of starwarsyness.. after all these suits have been used for over 100 years now - why wouldnt they not continue to be used? the rebel spec-ops in Return of the Jedi were wearing camo dusters after all.
I can't believe all those History classes are gonna payoff.... The use of the suits themselves are acutally quite older than 100 years. Scottish poachers were using them with the first firearms meaning around the 1500's if I'm not mistaken. Just FYI not bustin' your chops
We also need a more appropriate rifle than the t21 as our best wep.. from what i have seen written about it it is more of a squad support wep than a sniper rifle.. one that fires the non-blaster rounds (like the tusken) as its harder to visually trace the shots back to the source. Base the model on the barret .50cal or something.. rather than a circa 1915's Lewis gun...
I agree. I've posted on a couple of other threads about weapons created that reflect this need. I used the example of the Anti-Vehicular Rifle (the Barret was actually what I had in mind) as a type of special weapon for the sniper. Give it an ungodly slow speed (around 10 or 11, maybe even as much as 15) to reflect it's intended use of the one shot one kill and it would go real far as to making us true snipers
Zev
Only snipers can use ghuille suits of course! Only snipers know how to properlymake em too (in RL)! Yeah...They really need this for us....AND a better Class Specific Rifle.....I was fully expecting the T21 to be some big ass Anti-Moon Rifle or something but from the sounds of it, without considerng all the bugs, itseems to besome galleon cannon or something.
Why do we have only 1 rifle? LOL, I still don't understand that....Maybe those hidden schematics or something but something seriously needs to be done about the fact that we only have 1 unique class specific rifle and thats what we can use from start of Rifleman to end of Rifleman...I thought that was pretty gay.
i like, i like, i like and i **edit** well want it! ![]()
Inregards Decay - i think it should work the same as armour, there is decay and there should be.
Make it so you have to craft them as well. Tend to mean you have to be a scout or have some harvesting skills as well or you could buy it if you didnt. I dont think it makes sense that you need a tailor to do it, it should be made by the rifleman themselves. To that extent make it so only the person that makes it can wear it, which again will stop people from selling it to people that shouldnt have it.
But it certainly should be part of the concealment line, thus would also restrict people just wearing them, with that make it so it is at least advance before you get the 1st one. i.e.
Intermiadiate Conceal - concealment shot
Advanced Concealmean - Guille Suit - Forest
Expert Concealment - Guiile Suir - Plains
Master Concealment - Guille Suits - Desert
I think this would make the skill and the rifleman tree alot more actractive. Also i think this should be limited to just PvE for the simple fact if we where to get something like this and use it PvP, well imagine the scream for NERF the RIFLEMAN and to be honest i tend to agree if we ever did get somethign like this. But for PvE we need something like this to help us against some of those bigger mobs!
Why has this post been brought up again. I saw this same sort of post up about 2 weeks ago. Gillie suit = Dumb.
Salomon Orange
Rifleman
DEFENTALY like this idea! This game needs some kinda stealth.. and well Take Cover is DEFENTLY not cutting it.
Like the decay idea for the simple reason i don't want to see a bucha n00bs with expert rifle in the marksmen like walking around using them. I worked LONG, and HARD mastering riflemen.. for what... basically nothing more then REALLY kick ass riflespeeed.
Riflemen should defentally be the ones that have to craft it. Kinda like how scouts have to craft thir own tents.. not having to bother some architect just to get charged 500c a tent.
OMG WHAT A GOOD IDEA!!! WHERE IS OUR RIFLEMAN CORRESPONDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or, just give us the /conceal command back.
Oh ,and its a "Ghillie" Suit , and they were used long before the advent of firearms.