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Thread: a carbineers issue with a krayt jawa rifle.

Cardco2
Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:22 pm
#14

we need more speed.(alot more. ) and working specials.



and the rifleman need to stop shooting there T21's at 1nce per second.





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G3N0C1DE
Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:42 pm
#15






Cardco2 wrote:


(DISCLAIMER: THIS IS NOT A NERF POST. OR A WHINE POST. I KNOW I WILL GET FLAMED BUT IT WILL PROVE ME WRIGHT.)


ok. im a master carbineer. ive been one for 6 months. im VERY experianced in PvP. i have a krayt LASER CARBINE,, and a great DH17, good damage and great speed on the latter.(its my stat gun.) and also a fastELITE CARBINEdamage sliced.(very good one to. ) and IM rather poor and cant aford good stun protective armour. well I had owned a imp in coronet and headed to theed for some more, earned FP. there was some idiot with no action(horrible wounds. ) like 1 action. im like LOL!!!! and I say:this idiot needs a lesson. so I shoot a legshot at him. DB him.


and then am attacked by a TKA warrior. and a pistoleer. neither masters.(i hope. )I have sub stat buffs to action and health. HAM isnt a prob.(i like sub buffs. not full buffs. I like a chalenge. and I hate armor.) well I use area attacks, and I bleed em both with my bleed carbine. and they keep healing.


they wind up with nearly no mind, and the TKA, tho he got several hits in, wich I healed. was being overwelmed. so he RAN. I used scattershot2 a few times on the pistoleer. and DB him. well then I go back into the starport to kill the TKA, and he runs.


I then see a guy who killed me eirrleir do to lag.(I thout he was a pistoleer.) well he has over 2k mind. but less then 550 health and action. so I go near him in the starport, I EXAMIN HIM AND HE HAS(fgrrrr caps lock. ) a dinky jawa gun. im like blast a rifleman!!! well im like ok......ill try, if things get harry ill run. well he exploits and usses a wall hole(were you can shoot thru the edge of a wall, but cant get shot.) and gets 1-2 200+ POINT HITS!! i straff him and KD him and bleed him, and try to use my new warcry, but it dosnt work. and he gets me 1-2 more times(I stunned and blinded him.) well im like RETREAT he has a krayt gun. I run, he hits my mind evry 3 seconds at the most. and inces me. i had no chance.


JAWA ION RIFLE: a anti machine ion rifle uised by jawa to disable droids. it is nearly useless agenst peaple.


ingame:it has AP-1?????? what?? thats stupid. and it can be krayted.

i think it should be weeker, have charges that disable droids in 1-2 shots for the new droid invasion. and have AP-0 and be useless against living beings, but have like a 300+ mod against droids. thats what its like in the movies. and also the AP-1 rips thru EVEN stun resistant armour when the gun is krayted its worse then no armor!!!!


and riflemanMUST GET more powerfull attacks, but there speedMUST alsobe lowerd alot.


ps:i LOVE EDIT!!!!


pss: your wrong duder.(says to first response.)

Message Edited by Cardco2 on 02-18-2004 04:08 PM






Sorry bud, but i do over 200 every shot w/ my jawa and it's not krayted.Another thing is this guy probably would have taken you out a lot quicker if he were to use a t21.


As for you saying your very experienced in PvP... you also stated you don't use health/action buffs and don't wear armor... sorry but these just don't mix.


If you KD a rifleman w/ less than 550 health/action and didn't kill him?? Shame on you.


One last thing.... why did you go through all the trouble of putting all that other stuff in there such as killing the pistoleer and tka... that was pointless





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Rolassk
Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:49 pm
#16






G3N0C1DE wrote:



Sorry bud, but i do over 200 every shot w/ my jawa and it's not krayted.Another thing is this guy probably would have taken you out a lot quicker if he were to use a t21.


As for you saying your very experienced in PvP... you also stated you don't use health/action buffs and don't wear armor... sorry but these just don't mix.


If you KD a rifleman w/ less than 550 health/action and didn't kill him?? Shame on you.


One last thing.... why did you go through all the trouble of putting all that other stuff in there such as killing the pistoleer and tka... that was pointless





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Solti
Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:40 am
#17

Really, I admit as a rifleman that a krayted Jawa Ion rifle is overpowered, but it's in the game and you can't just take them away. I use one myself on occasion even. What I think needs to happen is they need another type of armor in the game with good stun resists but weakness in some other area that would leave them vulnerable to some other damage type-say acid damage or electricity or something. It would encourage people to figure out what their enemies capabilities are before the fight, and more importantly hopfully look cool. In any case, it would stop most of the Jawa Ion Rifle whining we get here from the other professions. Just my 2 cents.



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SeiKeu
Thu Feb 19, 2004 7:09 am
#18

I don't think that was a krayt jawa. I currently have a non-krayt jawa at 380 max dmg and can easily get headshot3s doing 500-700dmg so that was some low end jawa.



Zeipher Almasty
Master Doctor/Rifleman
Waste93
Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:16 am
#19






Kgboutlaw wrote:

well no stun weapon should have AP really. The damage should stay the same...but armor pierce on something that is just supposed to disable machines....why would it need to pierce?






Because it has to pierce the hard exterior of a droid to effect the shielded circuitry withing the droid.They are made of metal afterall.



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Grahd_Plats
Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:42 am
#20






SeiKeu wrote:
I don't think that was a krayt jawa. I currently have a non-krayt jawa at 380 max dmg and can easily get headshot3s doing 500-700dmg so that was some low end jawa.





You must be shooting at players without any ranged mitigation there buddy. Andat only 380 max dmgI still find a 500 dmg headshot against a 0 ranged mitigated opponent hard to believe.
Necro-
Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:03 pm
#21

interesting post. but i agree (and i AM a rifleman)


the jawa ion rifle is MADE to kill droids (eg at-st's)


as for the rifleman comments - not sure about the specials but speed yes.

Cardco2
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:04 pm
#22







Sorry bud, but i do over 200 every shot w/ my jawa and it's not krayted.Another thing is this guy probably would have taken you out a lot quicker if he were to use a t21.


As for you saying your very experienced in PvP... you also stated you don't use health/action buffs and don't wear armor... sorry but these just don't mix.


If you KD a rifleman w/ less than 550 health/action and didn't kill him?? Shame on you.


One last thing.... why did you go through all the trouble of putting all that other stuff in there such as killing the pistoleer and tka... that was pointless




that was to show my power!!! muahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!


and he killed me befor I could get my laser carb. out.



when the 200-400 hits were hitting, I just ran.(ps:he healed and had armor.)


also ive been PvPing since the second week of valcyn!!!!!!!! yeesh.




Chriss Lightstrider
Valcyn
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Ogotai
Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:31 pm
#23

my .02 cents but from what my weaponsmith and a few other friends ive talked to said if you use a gun with a damage type that the armore has a vulnribility to( not just no resist) you do the listed damage(the min-max values)and ap is ignored. So aginst comp with a vuln to stun the ap is irrevelant. still i have never tested this so im probably totally wrong.
CairnTrenor
Fri Feb 20, 2004 1:00 am
#24



Waste93 wrote:


Kgboutlaw wrote:
well no stun weapon should have AP really. The damage should stay the same...but armor pierce on something that is just supposed to disable machines....why would it need to pierce?



Because it has to pierce the hard exterior of a droid to effect the shielded circuitry withing the droid. They are made of metal afterall.




Did R2 get his exterior pierced when he was shot by one? The whole reason jawa's use them is to disable droids without damaging them.

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SeiKeu
Fri Feb 20, 2004 1:20 am
#25

Well 500 dmg is easily done with the special attack multiplier of headshot 3 with the ap1 of a jawa added on top of that.



Zeipher Almasty
Master Doctor/Rifleman
Waste93
Fri Feb 20, 2004 1:59 am
#26






CairnTrenor wrote:





Waste93 wrote:





Kgboutlaw wrote:

well no stun weapon should have AP really. The damage should stay the same...but armor pierce on something that is just supposed to disable machines....why would it need to pierce?






Because it has to pierce the hard exterior of a droid to effect the shielded circuitry withing the droid. They are made of metal afterall.






Did R2 get his exterior pierced when he was shot by one? The whole reason jawa's use them is to disable droids without damaging them.

Cairn Trenor
Master Carbineer





Yes he did. The Jawa Ion is basically an EMP gun. It has to be strong enough to penetrate the exterior of the droid and to disable shielded circuitry. That is what the AP1 of the weapon represents. It isn't a physical piercing as in other weapons, but it is still piercing.



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