Rifleman Archive
Thread: This is why PvP sucks
Meskall wrote:
HARP00N wrote:
I was using a jawa ion rifle with 100-250 damage, pretty average, and doesnt suck. The reason i was using it is cuz he had full composite, if i had used a laser i would have done even less.
And why should i have to shell out thousands on brandy? The BH didnt have to be buffed. And a musician? He was just running around town in bestine overt (i was the onlyone who tried to stop him, god this game is stacked towards rebels) and i tried to kill him, but i realized i have no chance against dizzy KD and eye shots that are stronger than a master rifleman (which i am not, and neither was the BH) using a jawa ion rifle and headshot3s (400 damage is the most even with excellent Jawas that are sliced) while draining a healable pool and firing at one shot per second.
Please, there is NO way a BH can beat a prepared rifleman, if your not willing to buy some brandy for PvP then you should die. BH are by far one of the weakest classes, get some composite and BH are useless.
BH are by far one of the weakest classes? Ok. What next, TKAs are the weaknest also, all the way down there with commandos, right? And brandy gives you 400 points to your actual mind pool. Thats one extra eye shot for a BH. And that helmet will do a whole lot of good when you are on the ground, knocked down with your a$$ skywards ready to take it from Mr. Weakest-class-in-the-game-BH.
Man I never realized how far behind in PvP other servers are, with the abiity to get 230+ ranged defence commando's and BH are gimp as can be. Seriously come play on Bloodfin as a Master BH, or even a BH dabbler you will get so frustrated because you cannot do a damn thing in PvP. Same with commando, the ONLY thing commando is good for is PA wars, and clone camping causing health wounds... but a TKM/Squad leader takes care of that.
Harpoon you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to PvP...give it up man, come play on bloodfin and you will see how much of a n00b you really are. composite helm > BH. 200+ ranged defence > BH. Master rifle > BH.
Do not claim you know a damn thing about PvP as a rifle dabbler.
HARP00N wrote:
BH are by far one of the weakest classes? Ok. What next, TKAs are the weaknest also, all the way down there with commandos, right? And brandy gives you 400 points to your actual mind pool. Thats one extra eye shot for a BH. And that helmet will do a whole lot of good when you are on the ground, knocked down with your a$$ skywards ready to take it from Mr. Weakest-class-in-the-game-BH.
HARP00N wrote:
I was using a jawa ion rifle with 100-250 damage, pretty average, and doesnt suck. The reason i was using it is cuz he had full composite, if i had used a laser i would have done even less.
40% stun armor is a wonderful thing.
And why should i have to shell out thousands on brandy?
if you wanna win pay the price... the 800k i spent on the new BE inhancedfoods has more than paid for its self. lets see crate of 25 @ 21 uses each for 200k= 381 credits per use. crate of 25 moun at 5k is 200 credits per use. but there is no downer and the brandy lasts for 40 mins... so you are actully loseing money if you use spice.
The BH didnt have to be buffed. And a musician? He was just running around town in bestine overt (i was the onlyone who tried to stop him, god this game is stacked towards rebels)
i don't understand this in this context... the best PvPers on radiant are mostly imps... there are just more rebs out there cause in the end we win... yes rebs need something to deter them, the crackdown is a joke...
and i tried to kill him, but i realized i have no chance against dizzy KD and eye shots that are stronger than a master rifleman (which i am not, and neither was the BH) using a jawa ion rifle and headshot3s (400 damage is the most even with excellent Jawas that are sliced) while draining a healable pool and firing at one shot per second.you got KD'd it happens to everyone, Rifleman ave no defence against it... its our weakness... and as master rifleman there is noway that an eyeshot will ever outdamage HS3 even if they had a tangle pistol
good post Wabit.
Wanna add only reason that BH is not uber right now is defense stacking, which shafts anybody that doesnt have it themselves. Once thats gone in Publish 7 the Eyeshotters will return.
I am a master rifle(wo)man. Personally I have 3 sets of composite, with a total of5 helmets
Ultra low HAM 52% helmet with 152 mind cost
Low HAM 66% helmet with 173 mind cost
High resist 79%helmet with 289 mind cost
BE armor 64% helmet with 290 mind cost and +14 to bleed resist (not as useful as it used to be 
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And my precious 38% stun resist 77% helmet with 333 mind cost
Your argument is a non master BH beat a non master RM, and you don't think thats fair. You don't think that its fair that a BH uses a healable pool and you had to use a weaker gun on him to cut through his armor, that you refuse to wear, because you don't want to spend money on food. Well the bounty hunter probably doesn't think its fair that his novice elite profession takes more skill points to get than your master. The BH probably doesn't think its fair that you even have a gun that has light AP, does stun damage, and hits harder than his pistol.
This is what is called "balance". Rifle(wo)men have the capability to do insane amounts of damage insanely fast. In order to balance this with the rest of the system, certain disadvantages must be given to us. The biggest dissadvantage is that of HAM costs. I can take myself from full health to a baby nuna blow away from incap on all three pools in exactly 5 seconds with HS3 (takeTHAT carbineers). Not being buffed in some fashion is NOT an option. No buffs, no fighting, its that simple for me. Don't want to pay for food, spice,musician, and doctor buffs all the time, don't be a rifleman. Chose a different profession that has lower damage but lower HAM costs that are more easily healable. Best thing about getting all these buffs though, is it makes it easy to wear armor. Eat, drink, be merry, get medicated, medicate yourself, and once you're done, throw on your best suit of armor and go own the battle field (at least until the buffs start wearing out).
Being beaten by a BH, master or no, because you refuse to do what it takes to be your best is not the reason PvP sucks (there are a lot of valid reasons PvP sucks, however this isn't one of them).
P.S. On a side note, RM did not become the FOTM due to any changes to this or any other combat classes. The patch where RM became a viable combat class infact changed little to the RM profession (might have added the defenses, but they added defenses everywhere...) The single, solitary reason RM went from zero to hero is the Devs finally fixed buffs. The fact that all buffs suddenly started stacking properly is what fixed this profession. Before you could get doc buffs and pop a muon and you were OK till the downer hit (then you were screwed hard, possibly till you logged off for a half hour), but all of a sudden 2 ryshcates and a BoH and you were golden for as long as you could pull the trigger. Buffs make this profession, it is nothing without them as history has proven. Love it or leave it.
Ok... thanks for the ... tips... guys.
Wabbit.. i dont understand the tusken fort comment, once you are master you dont need Xp and you are only wasting money and weapon condition by hunting tuskens...
Eaca, Wabbit and others.. where do you get the money for all this? Blowing off 800k without a problem on buffs without any return money? AT-STs dont work in PvE any more, I didn't exploit/dupe those millions of credits during that period 4 months ago, I don't have a whole guild backing me, I don't ebay money, and I'm not a master crafter of some sort (nor would I have the grinding time or the skill points to be one)