Rifleman Archive
Thread: Tusken Rifle & Spraystick Damage
DVader539
Sat Mar 20, 2004 10:31 am
#14
Proof!
I have Proof!
First off, an article from bloodfin.org
And then a weaponsmith's guide from swgcraft.com
And finally, the piece of evidence worth a thousand words from swgcenter.com
A screenshot of a King Tusken Rifle with kinetic damage!
Proof that the Devs lie and the Tusken was kinetic!
I have Proof!
First off, an article from bloodfin.org
ranged attacks generally do blast damage (unless the weapon is an acid rifle or lightning rifle - i expect some common sense here) ... however there are 2 guns which do kinetic damage - the tusken rifle and the striker pistol
And then a weaponsmith's guide from swgcraft.com
Q. What are the damage types for each weapon?
A.
Heat: EE3 Carbine, E11 Carbine, FWG5 Pistol
Cold: SG82 Rifle
Acid: DXR6 Carbine, DX2 Pistol
Stun: Tangle Pistol, Jawa Ion Rifle
Kinetic: Striker Pistol, Tusken Rifle
Energy: All others
And finally, the piece of evidence worth a thousand words from swgcenter.com
A screenshot of a King Tusken Rifle with kinetic damage!
Proof that the Devs lie and the Tusken was kinetic!
Ackehece
Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:14 pm
#15
ROBO1964 wrote:
It's nice to know that we have an advantage over Meleeplayers. That must be why they kick our ass and Solo Rancors all the time.
uh.... i solo rancors all the time with my t-21 .... just need good buffs and a bit of range
as for them kicking our butts... they kill me occassionally - but only if i don't realize they are charging me... (if they get with in 20m i am so much toast...)
i actually think the devs reponse in this situation is fair. I would like kinetic but I have lived (and died while fighting nightsisters) without it. I am effective against 80% of nightsisters - that is a fair chunk and then ones i am not effective against i try to lay status attacks on even if they do no damage to help the others i am grouped with. believe me a well timed stun or dizzy can help lots.
christianohamtaro
Sun Mar 21, 2004 5:27 am
#16
If you have like rifle speed 99 for mod and carry a good dxr6b rifle, then rancors will be just like big version of hurrton. Trust me, get buffed and try lol
Barb-Wire
Sun Mar 21, 2004 8:18 am
#17
personally i wont join hunts where i cant at least help with the killing of the creatures. so hunting things that require purely kinetic damage is not a valid argument when they say just bring a melee type.
i would argue that having creatures 100% resist to everything excludes people from gameplay. it does not promote group play in the least.
but as seen in numerous previous instances all the devs have to go by is their "Fact" sheets written by coders who never played the game and are going off what things "should" be. the very same devs telling us this are the ones that are so completely wrong about how AP works. but dont take no for an answer because they dont play the game we do.
Sskar
Sun Mar 21, 2004 10:57 am
#18
Quote:
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If you have a target that needs high Kinetic damage output to take down then pick up a melee player for your group.
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What good is it to us rifleman if we pick up a melee player who will be the only one to be able to damage the target if we can't help him out?!
Sure.. lets pickup a melee fighter and let him join US in OUR hunt so he can attempt to soloOUR targets while we stand around unable to help him... I may be wrong, but surely this is not the way they intended a hunt to go...
ChilastraBH
Sun Mar 21, 2004 7:07 pm
#19
aren't we getting a kinetic dmg rifle if Victor wins the election??
Kershakk
Sun Mar 21, 2004 7:55 pm
#20
*shakes head* Sad. Reliance on damage types to define class roles? Why not give all damage types to all classes and rely on classabilities to define roles? I guess it's easier to restrict damage types.
I'd honestly front Keldarin on this one. His example of reliance on one damage type to take out certain creatures is so broke.
DVader539
Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:59 am
#21
Well, I have to thank Keldarin for plenty of ammunition for my on-going post in the In Live Discussion Roundtable. This web of lies has become oh so tangled.
Ceroshin
Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:59 pm
#22
Pathetic.
You people are crying because there are two damage types you don't have access to?
Puh-leeze. We have the BEST Stun damage weapon in-game, the ONLY cold-damage weapon in-game, and a wide variety of damage types to choose from, and you're crying about **edit**ing Kinetic and Acid? How would you feel if you were one of the "Uber" melee types who only get *two* damage types to choose from, or if you're a TKA, ONE?
You people are crying because there are two damage types you don't have access to?
Puh-leeze. We have the BEST Stun damage weapon in-game, the ONLY cold-damage weapon in-game, and a wide variety of damage types to choose from, and you're crying about **edit**ing Kinetic and Acid? How would you feel if you were one of the "Uber" melee types who only get *two* damage types to choose from, or if you're a TKA, ONE?
comandobob
Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:42 am
#23
Ceroshin Wrote
Pathetic.
You people are crying because there are two damage types you don't have access to?
Puh-leeze. We have the BEST Stun damage weapon in-game, the ONLY cold-damage weapon in-game, and a wide variety of damage types to choose from, and you're crying about **edit**ing Kinetic and Acid? How would you feel if you were one of the "Uber" melee types who only get *two* damage types to choose from, or if you're a TKA, ONE?
You people are crying because there are two damage types you don't have access to?
Puh-leeze. We have the BEST Stun damage weapon in-game, the ONLY cold-damage weapon in-game, and a wide variety of damage types to choose from, and you're crying about **edit**ing Kinetic and Acid? How would you feel if you were one of the "Uber" melee types who only get *two* damage types to choose from, or if you're a TKA, ONE?
/ clap
Yes you really need tostop whining about noy getting kenitic back , im commando and tkm and All highLevel mobs have nearly 100% res to heat , And Tkm only has one dam type
You have the most dam types in the game at the moment , and you can solo rancors easy get your DXr-6 Rifle and get buffed no problem ,
I do agree though Tusken rifles were kentic damage a couple of months ago though
But the rifleman Profession is by far the FOTM at the moment as you rock in pvp and are pretty cool in pve to ,
tyr being a tkm when everyone has 80%-90% kentic protection armour and your flame dot is useless , Your HAR is pathetic , your grenades kill yoou faster then a they kill a Dunri .
So stop complaining about not getting Kentic Damage back as if commando were in your boat we would be so happy
LLJK_Griz
Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:00 am
#24
The Tusken rifle should be kinetic. It has bullet sounds and graphics which imply kinetic damage, looted versions are kinetic, and IT WAS KINETIC BEFORE. Energy damage makes no sense and causes it to become comlpetely useless because the stats suck.
I don't know where the whole spraystick thing came from, I don't remember it ever being acid. Maybe it was from the green bolts since most of the other acid weapons shoot green bolts.
Barb-Wire
Tue Mar 23, 2004 6:00 am
#25
comandobob wrote:
/ clap
Yes you really need tostop whining about noy getting kenitic back , im commando and tkm and All highLevel mobs have nearly 100% res to heat , And Tkm only has one dam type
You have the most dam types in the game at the moment , and you can solo rancors easy get your DXr-6 Rifle and get buffed no problem ,
I do agree though Tusken rifles were kentic damage a couple of months ago though
But the rifleman Profession is by far the FOTM at the moment as you rock in pvp and are pretty cool in pve to ,
tyr being a tkm when everyone has 80%-90% kentic protection armour and your flame dot is useless , Your HAR is pathetic , your grenades kill yoou faster then a they kill a Dunri .
So stop complaining about not getting Kentic Damage back as if commando were in your boat we would be so happy
yeah they are immune to hit but nothing is immune to the fire bleed damage. so basically commando could face up to a monster with 100% resist to all attacks and still win using bleeds.
but the fact that melee classes have only one damage type has no bearing on the fact that the tusken rifle is supposed to be kinetic the T21 blast and the spraystick acid. supposedly that is some sort of false argument style that has a specific name the intelligencia likes to use but i just call it a false argument.
comandobob
Tue Mar 23, 2004 6:27 am
#26
Barb-wire Wrote
but the fact that melee classes have only one damage type has no bearing on the fact that the tusken rifle is supposed to be kinetic the T21 blast and the spraystick acid. supposedly that is some sort of false argument style that has a specific name the intelligencia likes to use but i just call it a false argument.
Im not saying you you shouldnt get it as you did have Tusken Rifles which were kentic in the start , and i did love my tusken rifle when i was a lonely marksman , as to the T21 blast well that would be sweet ,
But dont you think you are going to shot your self in the foot if you get a rifle with every dam type , it would be like the TKM problem were every one is shouting we overpowered , this can only lead to the Dev's nerfing you , but i hope they won't , as TKm and Rifleman are probley the only profession which are working the way they are intended .
The Tusken Rifle Was Kentic & should Stay Kentic , Making it energywas pathetic , i dont know why the Dev's change these things