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Thread: T21 vs Laser Rifle

Ackehece
Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:36 am
#14






AxilX wrote:





Waste93 wrote:

When the target is vulnerable to Energy damage. Which includes lairs. Especially for the non-speed capped.






disregard that... the T-21 is energy as well (this guy is our coraspondent?). Most likely you read a really old post, where people used to bleed with a high damage T-21, then switch to a fast laser rifle to finish off thier prey. This was due to speed, and HAM cost. Niether of these concerns apply now, for three reasons. 1.) bleeds suck now, compared the bleeds of old, especially in PvP, but also to PvE to an exstent. 2.) HAM costs don't matter anymore. 3.) if you're speed capped, you can shoot the higher damage, higher AP T-21 just as fast, if you're not speed capped, you might as well *start* with the laser rifle, because you incurr a 5 second penalty for switching in combat with the new weapon delay, there is no circumstance what-so-ever that you would ever use this tactic anymore.







*see wastes reply following this... he says it much better then I.*

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Amana
Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:20 am
#15

course with the new ap system coming into effect with the CU we'll have to figure out all new strategys



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HayabusaN
Sun Mar 20, 2005 1:52 pm
#16

ok just to let you know Ap doesnt matter when the target is vulnerable to it. So this means the corrospondent is correct



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Cpl_Fisher
Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:10 pm
#17






Waste93 wrote:






AxilX wrote:





Waste93 wrote:

When the target is vulnerable to Energy damage. Which includes lairs. Especially for the non-speed capped.






disregard that... the T-21 is energy as well (this guy is our coraspondent?). Most likely you read a really old post, where people used to bleed with a high damage T-21, then switch to a fast laser rifle to finish off thier prey. This was due to speed, and HAM cost. Niether of these concerns apply now, for three reasons. 1.) bleeds suck now, compared the bleeds of old, especially in PvP, but also to PvE to an exstent. 2.) HAM costs don't matter anymore. 3.) if you're speed capped, you can shoot the higher damage, higher AP T-21 just as fast, if you're not speed capped, you might as well *start* with the laser rifle, because you incurr a 5 second penalty for switching in combat with the new weapon delay, there is no circumstance what-so-ever that you would ever use this tactic anymore.





When a target is vulnerable to a damage type you lose AP. So a target that is vulnerable to energy means that both the Laser Rifle and T21 would have AP0. Which is exactly the same. Which apparently you didn't know.


The laser rifle is generally faster than the T21 which means that the DPS may be higher with the Laser Rifle than the T21 in this instance if you are not speed capped. Hence the ending qualifier about for the non-speed capped.


Also if you have finished off the lair defenders. The 5 second switch doesn't hurt at all. And if you have a nice T21 that is Krayt, Exceptional, or Legendary. You probably don't want to decrade it's condition just to blow lairs. Unless you have an anti-decay kit on it of course.


All this info is in the FAQ about AP vs AR and vulnerability. Might want to check it out.



Message Edited by Waste93 on 03-20-2005 01:50 PM





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