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Thread: State of the Rifleman Address -= psuedo-biweekly edition 4=-

PyscoJuggalo
Fri May 27, 2005 5:17 am
#14






Atobusarragra wrote:





Ackehece wrote:





Atobusarragra wrote:





Ackehece wrote:

ranged death blow are now items that can be gained by sacrificing parts of your body and not inherent to our profession anymore.





Say what now? Where do you get this from? I thought it was removed from the game....






cyborg critical snipe





And, this is a loot drop from....Necrosis?





NO, it is a easy Quest Reward from Doctor Kinsworth(SP?) in the Myyydril Caves.



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Issik
Fri May 27, 2005 2:52 pm
#15

So... Do we need RoTW to use the cyborg arms for our ranged DB??



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PyscoJuggalo
Fri May 27, 2005 3:34 pm
#16






Issik wrote:
So... Do we need RoTW to use the cyborg arms for our ranged DB??





That would be a yes.



Have seen people post that when they tried to equip them without having ROTW it says "You must have the ROTW expansion to equip this item."


Message Edited by PyscoJuggalo on 05-27-2005 06:35 PM



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InspGadgt
Fri May 27, 2005 7:25 pm
#17






Ilcbar wrote:







InspGadgt wrote:

Which looted rifles are better then crafted ones?





ROFLMAO, almost all of them. A WS can make a really high damage weapon but the speed will be high and the SAC will be high, or can make one with low SAC, low damage, high speed, or low speed, low damage, high sac; get the idea. The quest loots that we are getting have high damage, decent speed and low sac; a weaponsmith's worst nightmare has come true.

Message Edited by Ilcbar on 05-27-2005 12:40 PM




Really? All the ones I have seen in game or screen shots of have about the same speed of about 2.5 and far less damage then the crafted weapons I've seen. When I hold them the DPS is lower then with my Laser Rifle...though I must say I believe the DPS is inaccurate because they only take in account the damage it can do given the speed modifiers you are using. But the timer on specials is slower then even the slowest rifelman so speed really is not a factor.



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InspGadgt
Sat May 28, 2005 12:02 am
#18






Ackehece wrote:

Welcome to this weeks briefing by your humble servant, please attend to my words.



Quest items are having a huge effect on our profession - possibly more then any other combatprofession in the game. Our best weapons are now ROTW loot items, Our range and ranged death blow are now items that can be gained by sacrificing parts of your body and not inherent to our profession anymore. All in all in my opinion a bad way for the game to head. It is alienating large segments of the game. Who here has had to see a crafter for a new item post CU? We all probablyhave. But who here is also looking to replace what they bought already with a loot item that is better?

your humble servant (and future overlord of the galaxy)

Ackehece




Which ROTW loot weapons are better then crafted? I haven't been real satisfied with the crafted weapons I have found yet.




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Ilcbar
Sat May 28, 2005 12:16 am
#19







InspGadgt wrote:

Which looted rifles are better then crafted ones?





ROFLMAO, almost all of them. A WS can make a really high damage weapon but the speed will be high and the SAC will be high, or can make one with low SAC, low damage, high speed, or low speed, low damage, high sac; get the idea. The quest loots that we are getting have high damage, decent speed and low sac; a weaponsmith's worst nightmare has come true.

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KzinKiller
Sat May 28, 2005 12:17 am
#20

*sigh*

So they're trying to strongarm people like me who refuse to purchase expansions while the game I already paid for is so unfinished, by gimping me if I don't buy the expansion and quest for vital profession elements?

I have a response to that, but it's not appropriate to the forum.

I'll shop for the loot, I guess .... but the whole concept really makes me want to regurgitate a few days' worth of meals.




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PyscoJuggalo
Sat May 28, 2005 12:19 am
#21






InspGadgt wrote:

Which ROTW loot weapons are better then crafted? I haven't been real satisfied with the crafted weapons I have found yet.







Love my DC, nice low SAC, need to Ace Storm Squadron before I can get that Trandoshian Rifle which seems to be the best.........



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Straker_Atrella
Tue May 31, 2005 3:02 pm
#22

Don't forget the issue about Laser Rifles beeing usable by anybody and them actually doing more Damage then the Master level T21. So basically a Pistoleer and Carbineer can have all the range of Rifleman, plus the damage.



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Mythor
Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:41 am
#23

Regarding the nerf calls (which I think a lot of people predicted would happen) I'd rather see professions being brought up to the level of the "overpowered" professions, rather than the incessant destruction of so many aspects of the game.

Rifleman doesn't have anything that is particularly overpowered (Startleshot is probably still headed for a nerf... ) but we're also not as high up the damage chain as we really should be.
I'd rather see us gain an extra skill, have an existing skill improved, have our weapons improved or something similar, rather than (for example) ruining Pistoleer's Stopping Shot.


Who here has had to see a crafter for a new item post CU? We all probably have.

Sadly, while I have indeed been shopping around, I ultimately needn't have bothered. I'm still using my pre-CR T-21 (ADK'd) and can happily hunt most anything I feel like hunting without even bothering with armour - armour rarely makes the difference in the fights I pick, and wearing it all the time will decay it far too fast anyway. Getting jumped by an impossible creature (hello level 498 huurton!) and being sent to the cloner and having my armour decay even more means there's just no point. My armour stays in my house and the only "decay-able" things I carry with me are my clothes - since my friend is a Tailor, if the skill mods on them stop working I'll just get some more. I don't have millions upon millions of credits to replace my armour every week, and while I could probably "farm" my way to that kind of money, that isn't fun and shouldn't be required.

Unless the weapons crafters can make are improved (either more damage/faster/lower-sac/working-elemental-damage *OR* more variety with same stats) there's really no need for me to "go shopping" for a new one. They're all inferior to a weapon I bought a great many months ago that was not particularly "special" even then.

I don't need anything any of the crafting community can make!

There's all kinds of changes that need to be made on the crafting side of things (less decay on armour, no decay for dying, for example) but I don't see a lot of action from the devs on any of that kind of stuff, and it's making a lot of the artisans give up.
And I can't say I blame them. :-/
Sunjammer
Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:05 am
#24


Ackehece wrote:
Please make sure to support your rangers, entertainers and docs. All of whom have experience significant changes in game play as well. I especially ask that you support ATK entertainer types. They are a rare and dying breed since before the CU but the bleed has increased since the CU when they lost many of their abilities.


I started playing a rifleman post-CU (and it's fun!), but my main is still a dancer. I just wanted to say a big heartfelt thank you for supporting live entertainers.


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Barb-Wire
Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:36 am
#25






Ackehece wrote:

Quest items are having a huge effect on our profession - possibly more then any other combatprofession in the game. Our best weapons are now ROTW loot items, Our range and ranged death blow are now items that can be gained by sacrificing parts of your body and not inherent to our profession anymore. All in all in my opinion a bad way for the game to head. It is alienating large segments of the game. Who here has had to see a crafter for a new item post CU? We all probablyhave. But who here is also looking to replace what they bought already with a loot item that is better?


your humble servant (and future overlord of the galaxy)

Ackehece






this is the worst part. quest rewards should never be better than what weaponsmiths can create if they are giving out finished weapons. my whole complaint with the quest rewards is that they are giving out finished weapons instead of limited use schematics as the high end rewards. its find to give a mid range reward as a completed weapon but the high end ones are killing the crafting trades.



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PyscoJuggalo
Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:02 am
#26






Barb-Wire wrote:





Ackehece wrote:

Quest items are having a huge effect on our profession - possibly more then any other combatprofession in the game. Our best weapons are now ROTW loot items, Our range and ranged death blow are now items that can be gained by sacrificing parts of your body and not inherent to our profession anymore. All in all in my opinion a bad way for the game to head. It is alienating large segments of the game. Who here has had to see a crafter for a new item post CU? We all probablyhave. But who here is also looking to replace what they bought already with a loot item that is better?


your humble servant (and future overlord of the galaxy)

Ackehece






this is the worst part. quest rewards should never be better than what weaponsmiths can create if they are giving out finished weapons. my whole complaint with the quest rewards is that they are giving out finished weapons instead of limited use schematics as the high end rewards. its find to give a mid range reward as a completed weapon but the high end ones are killing the crafting trades.






I think a better solution is that Expansion content can be finished items but they must be able to be reverse engineered into a Permanant Schematic or a really high usage limited use schmatic. Why do I think permanant? Because a lot of these newer items can only be quested once by a char, it would add new content into the game and keep it around, and crafter content and combatant content should be able to come from the same source.



Yes schematic loot is a nice idea, but it does get annoying having to go to a Weaponsmith all the time to get something useful. Though that saidSWG definately went overboard on ROTW, a lot of these loots (Mostly spaceship chassies) quite imbalancing.





I am the Mad Rifleman, Writer of the Riflenomican. I understand the secrets of the Dark Ancient Developer ones and their Evil. (Maniacal Laughter) He he he he he, Ha ha ha ha ha, Aha ha ha ha!
CM's are like nukes. You have them just incase you need them, but as soon as you start using yours the other guys start using theirs and everything goes to hell-PyschoticChipmunk -The First line of the Riflenomican.
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