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Thread: I Want An Apology from the PISTOLEER COORESPONDANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PyscoJuggalo
Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:17 am
#14

I am sorry and your right.It's just I see soo much done to myfavorite professionwithout me even getting to say a peep and that vote is the only thing that makes me feel like I have any input.




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CM's are like nukes. You have them just incase you need them, but as soon as you start using yours the other guys start using theirs and everything goes to hell-PyschoticChipmunk -The First line of the Riflenomican.
PyscoJuggalo
Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:47 am
#15

I apologized to Jaegen on the pistoleer forum. I regret making this post, it was out of anger and powerlessness. Jaegen is not to blame for the problems of our profession or the lack of thought that went into developing our profession.


When I choose rifleman Isaw that cover ability and I thought cool, that makes me able to be a sniper right? Well I was wrong. Then I figured atleast I have an advantage at a long range. I was wrong. Then I said well atleast at master I get to shoot a shot per. Now I'm going to be wrong on that. I should not have taken my anger out on Jaegen. I'm am a loud malcontent and sometimes say things that hurt other people.


-My Hartfelt Apology




I am the Mad Rifleman, Writer of the Riflenomican. I understand the secrets of the Dark Ancient Developer ones and their Evil. (Maniacal Laughter) He he he he he, Ha ha ha ha ha, Aha ha ha ha!
CM's are like nukes. You have them just incase you need them, but as soon as you start using yours the other guys start using theirs and everything goes to hell-PyschoticChipmunk -The First line of the Riflenomican.
Waste93
Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:02 am
#16

I understand you are frustrated. You're not the only one. I think a lot of people are getting frustrated for a number of reasons. I saw the icon idea posted on the Development forum. Nice idea but it's fluff. They can stop with the fluff for now and work on the main issues. According to their own poll the number one request is to fix the classes. Not balance but to make the things they do have actually work.





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jimm2k
Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:19 am
#17






AldeonAvardulin wrote:
Pistoleers are already getting a rifle nerf 3 second speed cap. Is it not fair at the same time you get your speed, we get our range?




well if you want to consider it that. were heavy rifles and pistols meant to shoot at the same rate of 1 shot per second?heavy rifles werent to be fastand fire at 1 shot per second but were meant to be slower harder hitting weapons,but pistols were meant to be fast, very very fast as stated by the devs and low hitters. once the .5 second cap gets put in we can evaluate if thats too powerfull or not. if .5 seconds is too fast it should be balanced just like a rifle shooting 1 shot per second for 2k damageand a pistol shooting at the same speed for 400 damage.



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VolstedGridban
Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:22 am
#18



PyscoJuggalo wrote:
OK Nouels I respect the fact you are defending your coorespondant




Noules is a Rifleman. His correspondent is Aldeon, same as you.



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Krupskaya
Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:52 pm
#19






AldeonAvardulin wrote:
Pistoleers are already getting a rifle nerf 3 second speed cap. Is it not fair at the same time you get your speed, we get our range?





You can't honestly think Jaegan, or Pistoleers in general, give any portion of a **edit**.Jaegan is a Pistoleer correspondent, and an effective advocate for his classyet unaltered range, simply because there are more Pistol-users than Riflemen, and Jaegan has no compulsion (nor, in a Machiavellian sense, should he) about bringing another class to ruin while helping his own.Fairness has nothing to do with any of this.


A Rifleman should theoretically be a high damage, long-distance attacker with weak defenses and a slow fire rate . . . apparently we will have the weak defenses and slow fire rate, but without any compensatory advantages, because that would be unbalanced.We will fire at 1/3 the speed of Pistoleers but will not do 3x the damage per shot, because that would allow us to one-shot, and that would be unfair, as one-shotting, according to the Developers, is completely unacceptable. In other words, we are supposed to be extreme in our advantages and extreme in our disadvantages, but, for balance's sake, only those disadvantages can stand. Jaegan is profiteering from our class's destruction exactly as one would expect from his namesake. Which is an excellent and desirable thing for the Pistoleer -- as I used to be, and wish I still was -- but understandably painful thing for Riflemen.


No bitterness -- this is not balancing, it is class warfare, and we have been to naive to regard it as such. While Jaegan and the Pistoleers militated for a Pistoleer class with endless advantages and no disadvantages whatsoever, we suggested a Rifleman class with an equal share of both -- the compromise is, apparently, one profession with all the disadvantages and another with all the advantages. We Riflemen didn't have the chutzpah to seek self-advancement through the mutilation of another profession, and that is a pity.


Every change that the Developers have ever instituted in this game has been predicated on whining. And in this regard we have been 'outclassed'. Jaegan has been a superb correspondent, and to the victor go the spoils. I'd recommend that all sensible Riflemen either quit or go Pistoleer. I would quickly opt for the latter, but my sense of disgust at this wretched game, the stink of politics, deters me. Those who have grinded a dozen million less XP than I have might find it an easier transition.




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Krupskaya
Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:57 pm
#20








Krupskaya wrote:



You can't honestly think Jaegan, or Pistoleers in general, give any portion of a **edit**.Jaegan is a Pistoleer correspondent, and an effective advocate for his classyet unaltered range, simply because there are more Pistol-users than Riflemen, and Jaegan has no compulsion (nor, in a Machiavellian sense, should he) about bringing another class to ruin while helping his own.Fairness has nothing to do with any of this.






Damned forums butchered my post . . . grr. Should have been something like:


". . . . an effective advocate for his class; the resultwill be 1/3 Rifle DPS yet unaltered range, simply because . . . ."


Amazing that SOE apparently can'teven managefunctional text posting. As for actual balancing? Ugh . . .




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Raloorn
Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:01 pm
#21

I still Crack up over the Pistoleers Correspondents statement that our three advantages is


Faster Crawl speed


Cover


and a ranged Deathblow (which i somewhat agree on this one but it does nothing for PVE)


when i saw those three things as our advantages i almost fell out of my chair laughing.


hes not a correspondent he's a stand up comic.




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Seflyn
Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:48 pm
#22

Lol faster crawl speed, that's a classic.



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Krupskaya
Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:57 pm
#23

We also benefit from:


Higher rate of benefit from the one-time Cloning fee and temporary newbie insurance.


Lower rate of decay on our weapons, given that we die before firing them more than once or twice.


Low occurence of Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, as we don't have to face the agony of spamming Eyeshot two dozen times in a row (but, of course, Eyeshot has nothing to do with Pistol v Rifle balance . . . because Bounty Hunters can't use Scatter Pistols, and Scatter Pistols aren't Pistols, but whatever . . . )




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Seflyn
Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:58 pm
#24

You forgot the extra wounds we get, if you are trying to raise medic the obvious choice is rifleman, what other weapon grants you so many wounds?



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Krupskaya
Thu Sep 25, 2003 6:14 pm
#25






jimm2k wrote:
what are you guys thinking you are not asking for a rifleman fix you are asking for a pistoleer nerf.all pistoleers should sit back and do nothing............well um no. i cant believe one of the riflemans issues is we should be able to kite pistoleers.





Ugh, I simply cannot believe the stupidity and hypocrisy of some people.


Let me state this as clearly as I can:


This issue was precipitated because, in militating for improvements for Pistoleers, the Pistoleer correspondent supported a change taht would utterly NERF the Rifleman class.


And now when we respond in kind . . . Oh, no, the poor Pistoleer community is being victimized by the evil Riflemen! What could they have possibly done to warrant this sort of thoughtless brutality, the wanton cruelty! Oh, God, the agony of this umbrage!


/nerfs Rifleman again


Oh, poor benighted Riflemen who would heartlessly degrade innocent Pistoleers for crass personal benefit!


/nerfs Rifleman again


Can't we all just get along?


/nerfs Rifleman again


Oh, the humanity! We poor Pistoleers, always wronged by the terrible Rifleman! Can't you just let us be? Live and let live, my brothers!


/nerf


/nerf


/nerf


Oh, the humanity! They are violating us, raping the soul of the Pistoleer!


/nerfs Rifleman again



Gutless hypocrites. Garrote our class and then urinate on our grave, what fine form. Despicable, witless mongrel.




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Raloorn
Thu Sep 25, 2003 8:39 pm
#26






Raloorn wrote:

I still Crack up over the Pistoleers Correspondents statement that our three advantages is


Faster Crawl speed


Cover


and a ranged Deathblow (which i somewhat agree on this one but it does nothing for PVE)


when i saw those three things as our advantages i almost fell out of my chair laughing.


hes not a correspondent he's a stand up comic.





LMAO man that still cracks me up .. im putting that as my sig



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