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Thread: To all RIFLEMAN Say Goodbye to Mind Special Damage

KardenTyrell
Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:24 am
#14

that will mean for now that everyone takes novice medic in his template you know....untill they fix the way medics can heal themselves so quickly in active battle....the system will be screwed with neverending battles...or at least veeeery long during ones



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HARP00N
Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:31 am
#15

no special damage type means exactly that, damage that specials can do. So you will still be able to hit mind like 10% of the time with random pool attacks like we do now, but you cant target it specifically.
PyscoJuggalo
Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:39 am
#16

I assume mind is going to become Stim healable, but that might be making an "Ass" out of "u" and "me".


Sorry old joke had to do it





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charvakas
Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:44 am
#17






lauranna wrote:

(Dont ask me how a rifleman shoots faster than a pistoleer)




I guess the only kind of rifle you've ever seen is a bolt-action then?



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PyscoJuggalo
Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:42 am
#18

If they reduce our speed through Cap or Mod adjustment they will not increase our damage. They will "Balance" us, which means they will nerf us. They see a bunch of newer riflemen and say "Hey we gotta make rifleman unatractive so we can reduce their number" they don't say "Why do riflemen have an advantage in our system? What's wrong with our system that constantly makes one profession the strongest"- Thats all hypothetical if they reduce our speed.


If they act like smart little developers and just take away the power of mind damage and nerf armor so Stun is not the only viable damage type then they have proved that they are making steps to truely "balance" the game.





I am the Mad Rifleman, Writer of the Riflenomican. I understand the secrets of the Dark Ancient Developer ones and their Evil. (Maniacal Laughter) He he he he he, Ha ha ha ha ha, Aha ha ha ha!
CM's are like nukes. You have them just incase you need them, but as soon as you start using yours the other guys start using theirs and everything goes to hell-PyschoticChipmunk -The First line of the Riflenomican.
Sotaudi
Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:58 am
#19






HabeasCorpus wrote:

I lump Automatic assult "rifles" and Shotguns all together in a profession this game calls Carbineer. I have always thought this... when I see rifles, I think of slow sniper rifles... I don't think the T21 was made to "run and gun" with like an EE3 is. Carbineers are supposed to have the "machine guns" in this game.












Assault rifles are assault rifles, long barreled weapons firing high power ammunition. Carbines are shorter barreled rifles which generally use lower powered ammunition. An M16 is a Rifle. An M4 (looks like an M16, but smaller) is a carbine.



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Master Rifleman / Master Combat Medic
"The Physician's Pain Reference"

Former Professions
Master Doctor | Master Swordsman | Master Brawler
Master Scout | Ranger



ElrohirSoR
Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:08 am
#20

tometaophion has a very good point, especially about carbineers. And i really do think their specials accurately reflect it, they are good at medium range as they should be, they can apply several different status effect blind, dizzy and stun all from one special and dont forget their single and AOE KD moves.


The real debate has always been between pistoleers and rifleman. The main arguement being that we shouldnt be faster then them based on that fact that our weapons are suppose to be slower sinceour rifle speeds are slower then pistols. While us rifleman love to rub in the fact that in RL rifles are far superior weapons in most condition, it being faster, more accurate and deadier. I also think that the pistol nerf a few month back (the one that effected the scatter, fwg, and LP mostly) didnt help out either. Backthen some lucky pistoleers had some pretty awesome weapons (krayt / feed mech enhanced ones) and even your average joe had at least a weapon that was 50 damage higher then what it is now. With no damage nerf to the rifles this served to furtherincreasethe DPS gap. Now pistoleers argue we are overpowered, when in my opinion our professions is where it should be (minus block not working) and their profession is broken.They need to push for a higher speed mod bonus to make them self equal to us without having to resort to taking up Bounty Hunter. Oh yeah and the arguement about stun isnt really valid, since they do have 2 stun pistols now ( the tangle and the new geneosian ones).I seen some krayt enhanced geno pistols that are 400+ max damage. Also stun protection is available in the game so that's not really a valid complaint. Just add stun layer to any armor, use synth steak, or use a PSG (abeit when it's not shifting vunlerability).


The only profession that really should be complaining are the carbineers that only have 3 damage base Heat, Acid and Energy, are by far the slowest range profession and no range or melee defense bonus to speak of. But that shouldnt mean that they come to the rifleman forum to cry nerf when they should be aiming threads at the dev to get their professions fixed.



Elrohir
Master Rifleman/TKM / Marksman 4004/Brawler 4300/Nove medi and scout

GTSimmo
Master Swordsman/Master Doctor
Previously: Master Fencer, TKM, Brawler, Carbineer, Marksman, RIfleman, Armorsmith, Artisan, Combat Medic, Entertainer, ID, and Scout
dogfacehero
Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:20 am
#21

Well put elo.


Id back everythign you say. With the continual nerfing every class is getting rounded down and down until we are all really weakened.


Kiashia
Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:27 am
#22





Here let me give you an example of some of the worlds finest sniper rifles.





US


Barrett M-82A1 (XM107)



  • Caliber: .50 BMG

  • Operation: Semi-automatic


Stoner SR-25



  • Caliber: 7.62x51mm NATO (.308)

  • Operation: Gas operated semi-automatic





Germany


H&K PSG-1



  • Caliber: 7.62 x 51mm NATO (.308 Win)

  • Operation: Roller locked, delayed blowback semi-automatic

MSG 90



  • Caliber: 7.62mm x 51

  • Operation: Semi-automatic rifle

Walther WA2000



  • Standard Caliber: 300 Win mag Optional Calibers:308 (7.62x51mm NATO) or 7.5x55mm Swiss

  • Operation: Semi-Auto (Bullpup)





Switzerland


Sig Sauer SG 550



  • Caliber : 5.56 x 45mm (.223)

  • Operation : Semi-Auto, Gas Operated





Philippine


MSSR "Marine Scout Sniper Rifle"


NSWAG with 3rd Gen MSSR



  • Caliber: 5.56x45mm NATO (.223 Rem)

  • Operation: Gas operated semi-automatic





Yugoslavia


M-76



  • Caliber 7.92 x 57

  • Operation: Gas operated semi-automatic








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mka
Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:47 am
#23

Great work, honestly.


Loads of countries that do not turn up once in the whole history of the Star Wars universe.





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Zuritz
Sun Mar 14, 2004 8:33 am
#24

thats a load of crap, i mean both combat professions classes (brawler and marksman) have weapons that specifically (spelled wrong probaly) target the health, action, and the mind. well if they take away the mind part whats taking its place? a weapon that hits all three at once? but rifleman are SUPPOSED to take down people fast, hence the title SNIPER, for accuracy, correct me if im wrong but dont snipers take people down in like one shot? i am personally doing rifles cause i like rifles not because rifleman take people down so fast. in all shooter games i pick the sniper rfile over the machine gun because i like being the silent stalker and the one who will kill everyone without them knowing where i am.

Just thought i would share my perspective on this.



Aesto El'Kre



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Zuritz
Sun Mar 14, 2004 8:35 am
#25

oh also, if a rifle is firing faster than a pistol it means the person is farther up the rifleman tree than probally the pistol guy is up in the pistoleer tree, or he only has pistols 4 from marksman and thinks he can take on a rifleman


Aesto



Kallidain-Back in the BH business ^_^
OneHung
Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:24 am
#26

It could be saying that the mind cannot be incapped, you could take away the specials from that person until he heals it.



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