Rifleman Archive
Thread: New Rifleman shakes his head
First of all... apologies to Ranxero...We kind of hijacked your thread, so let me make a couple of more comments about your statements. Maybe instead of "easy" you should have said Rifleman is "powerful". Yes it is, but it is very well balanced and IS what other professions SHOULD be. It is useful in the lower branches, but definitely worth it at Master. As far as PvE goes, it is one of the best classes, though I know that a TKM can take some MOBs out pretty damm fast! However, as far as PvP goes, it has its weaknesses too. We really need to keep our distance, but most firefights dont take place out in the open.
Back to the hijacking now...
Kez, Sandz... I will probably be the party pooper here because my schedule is erratic due to family demands. I can't usually pick a time... it's kind of play when possible... usually in the evenings from like 10PM-2AM CST. I can'tguarantee an extended period of good playtime. So in my case it will be "catch as catch can" (is that the correct saying?). So even if I can't tag along, you two should hook up and go do some damage. I always check my in-game email first thing, so If you head out on some planned mayhem, zip me a quick note andI'll definitely join ya if I see it!
Message Edited by WayneInAustin on 05-13-2004 12:47 PM
Ranxero wrote:
Hello all,
Firstly, this is not a call to nerf, a flame or anything else negative. Merely my observation.
I have been a melee fighter since day one. I think i ran around witha CDEF pistol for a while, but not for long.
Recently I have taken up Rifleman, mostly because Jedi is boring. I am constantly amazed at this skill. I used to have to be buffed, and armored head to toe to stand a chance against most high level foes. Not so, with a rifle. I now run around the fort, for hours at a time, with nothing but a pair of shorts and a chefs hat. A T-21 (not amazing) completes the look. I can stand against anyting the fort has to throw (except the Observer and friends). Conceal shot is an amazing thing. Yesterday I knelt down and nearly dropped a 22k nightsister, without her even knowing I was there. If not for the goofy 'lost sight of target' and then firing a normal shot at her, she would have dropped and I would have been fine.
I am also amazed at how often things miss me. It's like the gun came with its own PSG. Anyway, you all know the score. I just shake my head at all the effort melee takes vs. the relative ease of ranged. A lot of wasted time & effort.
Not a cry to nerf? I belive u sure why not come up on the boards saying how good rifleman is compared to everything else and saying that MELEE has a disadvantage against ranged?melee still gets a +2 hit on me aka they hit me alot more. Conceal shot yes is pretty cool but the fact that Rifleman is a SNIPER is why we have it. Good snipers are rarely seen and a master sniper would be almost never seen they would one shot their target not take 20 min to kill it and thier target constaintly moveing. This is crap that it isn't a cry to nerf this is saying how good it is and attempting to get the devs to notice you and nerf us the reason we are the best is because we aren't broken like everyone else so don't come up here and put up this crap you must have been fighting commoners because warlords can oneshot riflemen easy capitains are a 50/50 chance unbuffed. and the fact that we are rarely hit that is because of other things not just rifle unless the thing you are fighting has really low accuracy.
gloga wrote:
Not a cry to nerf? I belive u sure why not come up on the boards saying how good rifleman is compared to everything else and saying that MELEE has a disadvantage against ranged?
Melee totally has a disadvantage, if the ranged playergets out of range and stays there.
This is crap that it isn't a cry to nerf this is saying how good it is and attempting to get the devs to notice you and nerf us the reason we are the best is because we aren't broken like everyone else so don't come up here and put up this crap
Thats just funny. Like the DEVs give a crap what I say. BTW since I'm also a rifleman, that makes me part of the 'We' that aren't broken.
you must have been fighting commoners because warlords can oneshot riflemen easy capitains are a 50/50 chance unbuffed. and the fact that we are rarely hit that is because of other things not just rifle unless the thing you are fighting has really low accuracy.
I belive I mentioned the Warlords taking me apart on occasion. However, I can be seen at the Fort nearly any day. Feel free to drop by. (server notwithstanding). I shoot them all. Chiefs, oddly enough, give me more problems than anything else. I leave the armor at home, but I'm usually high on brandy.
biwan: Mohr
stand toe to toe and pound HS2/3. MUCH more enjoyable
PsychoticChipmunk wrote:
Heh, Ran you realize that your defenses from TK are stacking up with the high defenses of rifle as well as block from pikeman. That is one of the reasons you don't get hit often or hard. Although we are supposed to have a to-hit modifier for melee when holding a rifle...it's either broken or isn't high enough considering our melee defense. Don't know which but either way it fuels nerf callers and makes us a bit more powerful then we are supposed to be.
Now that is a good point. I rarely get hooked up in the math of the game. So yes, I have a bunch of defensive bonuses. Although, Block is a pretty crappy bonus in the grand scheme of things. It stops the shot, but you still take damage, and states slip through. Compared to dodge, that is lame. Rfile increases my chance to block, yet still get hit. How nice.
Also, I am the last person to call for a nerf on anything! As a pikeman, we got nerf hit in every single patch since day one, with the exception of our best weapon getting slightly better stats (from -50 to -35ish). No nerfs, I just wish I had stumbled down this path earlier. Still, I am enjoying sitting back and mind shooting baddies. Its nice to finish a fight and not be almost drained in all 3 boxes. Try spamming specials with a LVA.
While I'm here...something I'd like to see...full auto (not like the crappy carbine one). Empty out a T-21 at something. Maybe desrtoys the gun...can you imagine the uproar? Then came forth the cries for nerf...
Ranxero,
Stacking rules. 
Sand,
Will do.
Wayne,
No problem. I'm always on (or used to be). When I get back, things should stay that way for quite a while
) you could not use it on BAF mobs, they didn't see you but thier friendlies did. Now all you have to worry about is that once in 100 shot bleed.
Fred_Skinner wrote:
Be happy that /concealshot works. In my time (I guess you can call me Grampa Fred now
Yeah, we have(Sotaudi's I think)Bernie and Frank The Fambaas Story to thank for the /concealshot fix. Haha
Fred_Skinner wrote:
Be happy that /concealshot works. In my time (I guess you can call me Grampa Fred now
This was funny the only MOB that did'nt see you was the one you were shooting at, everything else rushed ya........
Ah my many times in the Cloning center were fun
WayneInAustin wrote:
.......... Maybe instead of "easy" you should have said Rifleman is "powerful". Yes it is, but it is very well balanced and IS what other professions SHOULD be. It is useful in the lower branches, but definitely worth it at Master. As far as PvE goes, it is one of the best classes, though I know that a TKM can take some MOBs out pretty damm fast! However, as far as PvP goes, it has its weaknesses too. We really need to keep our distance, but most firefights dont take place out in the open...................