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Thread: Bowcaster..POST CU conversion (Updated 4-29-05)

Ackehece
Sun Apr 17, 2005 3:51 pm
#14

the mid level bowcaster would be crosscert'd to other ranged and melee professions - so if you are a level 50 fencer or pistoleerwook you could use the mid level bowcaster - there is a place for it.



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Ackehece
Sun Apr 17, 2005 4:13 pm
#15

I will bring it up but I doubt you will see much action on this (of course I could be wrong - I have been before). The current thought is

"a novice marksmen or lower weapon will remain a novice marksmen or lower weapon"



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Kiryoku
Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:46 pm
#16





Ackehece wrote:


I will bring it up but I doubt you will see much action on this (of course I could be wrong - I have been before). The current thought is"a novice marksmen or lower weapon will remain a novice marksmen or lower weapon"




as i understand it, nearly every weapon being converted is going to the higher CL cert... for example,the DL-44 Metals are being converted into the DL-44 XTs... despite the DL-44 Metal cert remaining in the game (CL 12, novice marksman level), and the DL-44 XT being a master level, profession restricted weapon... why are they doing it this way?... because "dumbing" down a weapon has much more dire consequences than bumping it up...


from a numbers stand point, say you have a caster that is 170-530 right now... you probably used a combination of +230 max looted items to build it... that item converts to the light bowcaster, with the stats: 45-93 (taken from Bria conversion thread)... which is maybe +30 over a normal 'caster... if it converted into an assault bowcaster, it might convert to something with 1000 damage, +125 over normal... the point is, the integrity of the weapon is lost by dumbing it down...


who will be more upset?.. the crafter who's standard bowcaster becomes unusable, but more powerful (upgrading in conversion)... or the riflewook who's uber-'caster becomes completely worthless (downgrading in the conversion)... the answer is whichever one spent the most time/money on their bowcaster - the riflewook...


if other weapons are getting certed UP, the bowcaster should as well... it makes no sense to exclude it just because it has nocert on the trees or CL restriction currently...




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Kiryoku
Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:48 pm
#17

doh!... thanks for bringing it up with them though... i think it has a chance... it is logically the correct option... just use the other weapons conversions as precedence...



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Ackehece
Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:56 pm
#18






Kiryoku wrote:

doh!... thanks for bringing it up with them though... i think it has a chance... it is logically the correct option... just use the other weapons conversions as precedence...







Legendary cdef weapons exist and they remain cdef


but I will work on em.




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Kiryoku
Sun Apr 17, 2005 9:30 pm
#19





Ackehece wrote:



Legendary cdef weapons exist and they remain cdef


but I will work on em.





sorry if i seem to beargumentative...


but there aren't new CDEFs models... if they added an "assault CDEF" at a higher cert, you can bet current models would convert into that... that's the way it works with every other new model of weaponry, from the DL-44s to the flamethrowers... i still think the precedence is there...


it isn't about the legendary or uber status of a weapon... it's about the difference in the conversions: dumbing down the weapon makes it more worse, than uplifting it makes it better... that's why the precendence is what it is... if that makes any sense...

Message Edited by Kiryoku on 04-17-2005 09:34 PM



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Grambacca
Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:19 pm
#20

OK I got me an Assault Bowcaster on TCEP3 tonight and I must say it is nice and will make a great replacement for my Soiderfang BC.


I am still very disappointed that my 500k credits were wasted on my nice weapon that will essentially become nothing more than novice level crap!




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Jyde71
Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:43 am
#21

I had 3 nice bowcaster made at 432 max 4.4 speed made. Took me around 1 month tofind/loot the resources, tissues and bones to make them. And then spending time to find a good Wookiee WS to make them.


Ill be really disapointed if after all that effort ill end up with 3 junk weapons that my master rifleman wookiee will have absolutely no use for.







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Ackehece
Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:25 pm
#22

sorry all no reply yet.




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Heronemous
Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:53 am
#23

can someone give me a link to the cu weapon converter? I cant find it



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Ackehece
Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:58 am
#24






Heronemous wrote:

can someone give me a link to the cu weapon converter? I cant find it





we don't have the formulas per say that is in flux on the tc's right now (changed yet again today) but this is the goal for exceptionals


  • Changed conversion table so that the top 5% of current weapons are in the 100 to 120% of crafting max range.

  • (this of course is for the same weapon (at whatever tier is it))





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    Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise"
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    Kiryoku
    Sun Apr 24, 2005 2:54 am
    #25

    i still just don't get it... heh, surely the bowcaster thing is just an oversight?...


    i know you're on it as best as you can be (with all this other stuff), Ackehece... thanks...



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    Ackehece
    Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:08 am
    #26




    Kiryoku wrote:

    i still just don't get it... heh, surely the bowcaster thing is just an oversight?...


    i know you're on it as best as you can be (with all this other stuff), Ackehece... thanks...






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