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Grambacca

Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:50 am

OK logged onto the Gorath live serverlast nightto check some stuff out.

My current Bowcaster is a pretty nice Spider Fang enhanced Bowcaster that has high damage as Bowcasters go currently in live.

This Bowcaster as well as 2 others I had converted to the new ASSAULT Bowcaster!

Min 545 Max 1024 Damage unpupped! IU am happy to say the leaset!

Powerupsdid change. My Min-MAX powerups were changed to DAMAGE-SPEED powerups. No more MIN-MAX

Powerups already out of the crate and in inventory came up "faulty" and therefore unseable.

Powerups that I took out of the crate worked fine except for the last one in the crate. The last item in crate always came up "faulty"

With powerup my ASSAULT Bowcaster came out to around 675 -1225 Damage. Cannot remember exact numbes and took no screen shots. I'll add some tonight when I get home so you can see exact conversion stats.

Screen shots can be seen here:

Bowcaster pre-CU conversion

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=237044

Bowcaster after CU conversion

Bowcaster after CU conversion with new PUP

Message Edited by Grambacca on 04-29-2005 01:07 PM

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The_Great_Destroyer

Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:40 pm

#2

On the plus side, an Assault Bowcaster is one of the best weapons in the game now.

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Ruddy

Sat Apr 16, 2005 3:25 pm

#3

The_Great_Destroyer wrote:
On the plus side, an Assault Bowcaster is one of the best weapons in the game now.

But I want mine to be the bowcaster god!

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The_Great_Destroyer

Sat Apr 16, 2005 3:27 pm

#4

Ruddy wrote:

But I want mine to be the bowcaster god!

I was told that this change was made to specifically anger you. Tough luck

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Ruddy

Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:12 pm

#5

The_Great_Destroyer wrote:

Ruddy wrote:

But I want mine to be the bowcaster god!

I was told that this change was made to specifically anger you. Tough luck

Well they angered me and the original poster! :S

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Atobusarragra

Sat Apr 16, 2005 8:31 pm

#6

Hehe, yeah, on TCBria4 I have the same problem, all my nice BCs are now junk.

And the pups change too can be confirmed - max/min to max/speed. But this sint so bad if mitigation isnt an issue.

I cant wait to get me some Assault BCs, I was playing around on them on TCEp3. Great stuff

Maybe the conversion could take this into account.

Anywa, as for T21s, my T21s now have about 530dmg unpupped. On TCBria4 they are now 1100dmg unpupped. I noticed on TCEp3 that the max dmg for T21 was about 800. So this is nice

Kregi

Sat Apr 16, 2005 9:27 pm

#7

My soon to be worthless jedi slaying machine. 1-2 hit inacps some jedis on my server. If this really happens I think I may be forced to leave the game.
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=150252

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The life has been sucked out of this game.......thanks SOE.

The CU was halfass. The NGE doesnt even have an ass.

Kregi

Sat Apr 16, 2005 9:37 pm

#8

Well it looks like all the weapons went thru a random change in damage pre-cu to post-cu according to some guys on gorath with 500max de-10's ending up lower than 333max de-10's. So its probably still quite bugged......but then again what isnt in this game.

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Carini - last day Nov. 15th 2005
Mapiasal - last day Dec. 12th 2005 - last day cut short: SWG uninstalled Nov. 27 2005

The life has been sucked out of this game.......thanks SOE.

The CU was halfass. The NGE doesnt even have an ass.

Ruddy

Sun Apr 17, 2005 12:44 am

#9

I was afraid this was going to happen

I honestly hope when CU goes live, we get a choice with regards to what level we want our weapons to scale to (laser rifles can be either standard or advanced, bowcasters, scatters etc)
Otherwise, this baby gonna be worthless

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Kiryoku

Sun Apr 17, 2005 7:05 am

#10

The_Great_Destroyer wrote:

I was told that this change was made to specifically anger you. Tough luck

it seems a lot of weapons getting converted are turning into the "older brother" versions of the weapons... like almost every weapon defaults to the higher CL version, with the exception of the bowcaster...

the logic for the flame thrower -> plasma flame thrower works in this case as well... "This was decided upon in order to properly preserve the integrity of damage in respect to our flamer. Every Master Commando's primary weapon is the flamethrower, and has been for nearly two years now. If they were converted to the less damaging regular flame thrower (both have their cons/pros, but I suspect more commando's will use the Plasma FT in the exact way they use the pre-CU flamer), then you'd have a lot more angry people than the Flame IV dabblers" (StarNick)...

the difference is, of course, those of who used really good materials on orspentcreds onreally good looted 'casters were pretty laughable before... why make a great bowcaster, when you can have a great DXR?... bowcasters weredecent weapons, but they weren't good... we had to work really hard to make them spectacular... we worked really hard for a sub-par weapon, and now that it could be a good weapon, it gets turned into a really nice CDEF?...

a really nice bowcaster turning into a light bowcaster will not preserve the integrity of the weapon... non-riflewooks will have an easier timefinding newlight bowcasters that are better than the conversions, than we will at replacing our bowcasters with new assault ones...

if we don't get an option on the conversion, it should default (likeother weapons) to the higher CL cousin...

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Grambacca

Sun Apr 17, 2005 8:10 am

#11

a really nice bowcaster turning into a light bowcaster will not preserve the integrity of the weapon... non-riflewooks will have an easier timefinding newlight bowcasters that are better than the conversions, than we will at replacing our bowcasters with new assault ones...

if we don't get an option on the conversion, it should default (likeother weapons) to the higher CL cousin...

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That is exactly my point in making this post.

Why dumb down a really good weapon when it could be bumped up?

I also think it will take quite a while before I find a Wookiee Master Weaponsmith that will make the Assault Bowcaster for me. There just aren't any Wookiee Master WS's left on Gorath. The guy that made my Spiderfang Bowcaster left the game and he ws the last wook WS I knew of so I am essentially stuck with my dumbed down Bowcaster -OR- I have to drop a bunch of proffs and take up Weaponsmith myself, make me a bunch of Assault Bowcasters and then go through the grind again to get my combat proffs back. Only after the CU that grind will be even worse, LOL

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Former MCH

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Ackehece

Sun Apr 17, 2005 2:38 pm

#12

Kiryoku wrote:

The_Great_Destroyer wrote:

I was told that this change was made to specifically anger you. Tough luck

it seems a lot of weapons getting converted are turning into the "older brother" versions of the weapons... like almost every weapon defaults to the higher CL version, with the exception of the bowcaster...

The reason for the Bowcaster not being converted that way is it is a racial cert that all wookiees had - the equivalent of a cdef rifle. The bowcaster we have now is currently a low level no cert weapon and that is still the samepost weaponconversion.

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erli

Sun Apr 17, 2005 3:48 pm

#13

I think there is one too many bowcasters, and all current bowcasters In-Live should convert to Assault Bowcasters.

The Light or Recon bowcaster - only need one of these and it should be certed to all wookiees. Its uses are A.Wearable trophy piece. B. Draw Aggro. C. Limited Defense to the non-ranged Wook in a high level group. The idea that a mid-level bowcaster is required for levelling ranged wookiees is nice in thought but useless in practice. Its benefits compared to other weapons available for the training wookiee make it an unecessary addition that I can't see many WS bothering to craft. If current casters are required to convert to the lesser bowcaster then I would think the the Light bowcaster should be dropped and the Recon made the All-Certed Low End Caster. If current boowcasters were to be converted to Assault casters then I would think Recon should be eliminated with the Light Bowcaster being left as the sole All-Wookiee certed weaker version.

The Assault Bowcaster- the choice weapon of Master Riflewooks. At the very least, Bowcasters made under the current system using advanced and/or enhanced components should convert to Assault bowcasters. Currently, In-Live, a well-made bowcaster in the hands of a Master Riflewook is still as competent against unarmored opponents as stronger weapons in a non-Masters hands. The wookiees who care the most about the conversion of bowcasters are almost exclusively ones who have taken the time and effort necessary to make a truly exceptional bowcaster, and they all want Assault bowcasters. Converting bowcasters to Assault version will help meet initial demand, allowing weaponsmiths to focus on all those other new weapons they need to make.The only ones hurt by converting to Assault are non-ranged wookiees and I'm pretty sure they will be able to trade an Assault Bowcaster for a Light/Recon caster from any Weaponsmith who can make them.

Convert current ones to Assault Bowcasters, eliminate one of the two lesser versions leaving the other as the all certed weapon of non-ranged wookiees.

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