Rifleman Archive

Well I have pistol up until marksman but it's not as strong as the Pistoleer level so I still have a tough time. As far as brawler goes. nope not for me.

MB

I refuse to change. Not when I've put all this time into it, and not when there are so few of already.

We're like the Marines. The few and the proud. Only smarter

*gets set to dodge incoming fireballs from angry Marines*

Though I consider my self smarter than the average marine

I don't think it has anything to do with the fact I play a rifleman. That actually helps them gain ground.

Ok Marines, I'm only kidding. Just used you as a target to give myself a reason to BUMP.

MB

The thing that upsets me most still is the range issue. They knocke pistols down to what, 45 meters? woop dee do. Range is the real kicker, knock them down to 20 meters. Pistols in real life are more or less worthless past that range anyway.

22 meters = 24 yards

seems more like a reasonable pistol distance than 45 meters.

Kachad I have to dissagree withthe estimation of pistols IRL. there are people who can do amazing things with a glock IRL. The game though is another matter. 45m in game is like 225 meters IRL. if I can only hit at 63 meters with my rifle but in Real life the range si around 300 meters for an M-16 that's a modifier of 5 for range adjustment. 20m is then 100 meters IRL. morereasonable for a pistol. The current 45 for a pistol gives them 225 meters. Sorry knowing that a seven inch barrel is all I have to aim with makes it hard to belive that I can hit at ranges like that. The long bored barrel SOE is what gives the rifle it's accuracy at a distance.

Or did you forget that. Or more likely you didn't know it in the first place.

MB

P.S. when are we going to have the same range as MOB's? As a Rebel Captain hits me from 75m.

I really dont know much about guns IRL, just from other games, movies etc.

But yeah, from a game point of view I still see it as a simple thing. There are 3 wepons. they should each live at seperate ranges in order to make them all valuable. If 1 wepaon can fire along the whole spectrum of the range, it signifigantly reduces the value of the other 2 weapons.

You're right Kachada, if I remember correctly the 9mm Baretta's effective kill range (which hasan actual standard system usedto measureall firearms) is somewhere between 80-100 feet. That's less than 30 meters. So there's no way at 60 meters a pistol should be able to do much damage to me, let alone knock me down.

Ahh, but remember, this is Star Wars, things are different.. (Sarcastically)

Anyways, just FYI, the standard issue M16A2 Service Rifle has a Max Effective Range of 550m for a person target... I know that is far drastic in this game to try to meet that kind of standard, but 100m sounds a little more right to me.. Having a pistol shoot 64 meters, aka over half a football field away, just as accurate and powerful as a rifleman in the prone...Nuts..

It is my understanding that, due to some game coding. the max possible range the game will allow is 64 meters.

Using that, I see no reason why we can't just take 64, divide by 3 and there's the range for each class.

Oh ok, wasnt aware of that.. Good suggestion BTW..

Werner you're right the M16A2 is accurate out to 550m at a point target and more for an area target. But you only qualify out to 300m. How that applies to anything in SWG is anyones guess. All Iknow is I've had enough of the "Knowledgable" decisions SOE makes about our class.

I want a person who knows about weapons to work on our Class.

MB

P.S. Anyone want to tell SOE for me that you don't lose 10% of your mental ability when you fire a real life weapon. In truth it is, after training, almost second nature to aim, pause your breathing and squeeze the trigger. After so many years of doing it. I don't even have to think about it.

Hmmm. there;s an Idea. How about if you continue to nerf the hell out of us. Give us lower HAM as we get higher UP in the skill trees.

All this about hitting for over 5k witha rifle is what got us nerf. But swordsmen manage to hit from 5k-10k with a powerhammer. Link to prove

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swordsman&message.id=3007

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All this about hitting for over 5k witha rifle is what got us nerf. But swordsmen manage to hit from 5k-10k with a powerhammer. Link to prove

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swordsman&message.id=3007

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Reminds me of a post I once saw about proof tthat "SOE Hates Rifleman" this should go into that post as well.

He shoots. He Runs. and runs and runs.

MB

Master of the F5 Key