Rifleman Archive
Thread: Cannot use Rifle skills with Heavy Acid Rifle!? What gives?!
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HarlequinMK19
Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:09 pm
#14
Supposedly Commandos were going to be the ones to have the Cert. for the Beam Rifle, but as of now, no one does. If you should buy one..it should be for a decoration and not much else.
IdiotFool
Wed Aug 18, 2004 12:57 am
#15
The 4k headshot example was to be against a Gnort, but I couldn't shoot it with headshot, despite the fact that it's a rifle. It's smaller than the T21, so I don't see "HEAVY" being a factor when it's still a "RIFLE". I'm going to double check every rifleman skill with it, and then give my report, but I don't think any will work. Then I'll switch to BH/Commando Novice and see if I can use the BH pistol skills with the Launcher Pistol (also technically a heavy weapon). I don't know if they'll work, but I think they might...
IdiotFool
Wed Aug 18, 2004 9:18 am
#16
And yet, it too has it's own skill mods and Rifle skills would not apply to this either.
Kelith
Wed Aug 18, 2004 9:41 am
#17
LiakyK wrote:
Kelith wrote:
There is no cert for the Beam Rifle.
I think that was a joke since it looks alot like a HAR lol
I was referring to IdiotFools post where he asked which prof gets the beam rifle cert. I know that dragonisthedoor was joking, but it's still good to answer the question for the people new to the game.
Stacker
Wed Aug 18, 2004 9:47 am
#18
HarlequinMK19 wrote:
I agree with IdiotFool, but according to the game, the Heavy Acid RIFLE is actually a Heavy Weapon. Oddly enough, I think you can use the Marksman specials with this weapon as well as with the Flamethrower. The Marksman specials alwaysseemed to workfor me when I was doing the Commando thing. Just one of the many reasons why the Combat system needs to be redone.
you can use marksman specials with it because marksman is a requirement for commando. the launcher pistol is quite different, a pistol that was a heavy weapon would be kind of silly. what i'm seeing here is just because the name of something is rifle. then you think a rifleman should be allowed to use it...well thats understandable. but they gave us dxr. we dont need another acid rifle. there are plenty of certs that are broken in this game so far, but this isnt one worth fighting over. heavy acid rifle isnt really worth the resources to make
IdiotFool
Thu Aug 19, 2004 1:58 pm
#19
Meh, I just figured that if yer certed in something called a Rifle, you should be able to use Rifle skills with it. I don't really care either way, I'm not going to play a Commando/Rifleman, but I just find that slightly annoying.
RebRifle
Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:25 pm
#20
dragonisthedoor wrote:
Pick up the beam rifle, the rifle specials work with it, lol.
Beam rifle is a rifle though isn't. might have changed while i was gone but it gave rifle xp
dragonisthedoor
Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:16 pm
#21
I looted a beam rifle and I was actually able to use advanced strafe with it, but because I was not certed for it the damage was horrible. So yeah, it was a joke post and wasn't at the same time.
Wabit
Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:01 am
#22
look at the mods on a HAR... yep it has a high min max... but its range and accuracy blow... i tried the commando thing... its pretty worthless even at master... no you can't use rifle specials with it...
if you wanna compare apples to oranges yes all pistol specials work with any pistols (scatter pistol exception)... but thats part of the little balance we have between us and pistols... we are straight damage, pistols are state effects and different damage types (well not so much anymore with the acid and heat rifles)...
leave the HAR to the commandos, they have their own beef with it... AP0, speed and accuracy...
Zenitslav
Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:49 pm
#23
Might be a reason why the name "Heavy Acid RIFLE" dont think you could get a better name by the looks.. it is a rifle, But a heavy rifle, a suport weapon used for speciall troops. not snipers, snipers should have fast accurate weapons with good range.
Not some huge thingy that spits a cone of acid for 2m, its just not very sniperish.. Rifle is just a type of weapons like guns etc..
Not some huge thingy that spits a cone of acid for 2m, its just not very sniperish.. Rifle is just a type of weapons like guns etc..
Ackehece
Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:26 pm
#24
Zenitslav wrote:
Might be a reason why the name "Heavy Acid RIFLE" dont think you could get a better name by the looks.. it is a rifle, But a heavy rifle, a suport weapon used for speciall troops. not snipers, snipers should have fast accurate weapons with good range.
Not some huge thingy that spits a cone of acid for 2m, its just not very sniperish.. Rifle is just a type of weapons like guns etc..
we like to say that we are not just snipers but infantry as we don't just snipe we also do our biggest damage and attacks like machine gun fire. ^_^ but generally infantry do not carry the artillery with them like Starwars Commandos do here so pretty much anything with the word heavy in it is give to commandos
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