Rifleman Archive

How do you Really feel, TekDragon?

Seriously, though, two points:

• Tek, I personally enjoy most of your posts though I don't always agree with them. I thinkthere ARE thingswrong with our class and you shine a light straight on 'em. Applause for that! Do NOT stop.
  


• On the other hand, I hope you're not walking around all the time with the attitude that comes across in your posts. I'm novice rifleman 2/1/0/1 and am having a lot of fun in the game. I know I'll have to GRIND it out, but I'm enjoying the journey (keep in mind I don't PvP... probably get owned every fight). Everyone should find some fun/enjoyment in the game no matter how gimped their class may be.

One of the most fun things I do, and I've done it several times, is find a brand new noob and spend a few days with them teaching them the ins and outs of the game. My three favorite hunting buddies I met this way. They gain XP much faster and I have a blast watching them go "wow!" or "Cool!". And yes, I tell them that BH is the way to go, but that I like rifle.They hunt with me a while and usually end up wanting to do rifle too. And I end up with hunting buddies who hunt like I do!!

I agree with the general sentiment here that riflemen are not supposed to be pieces of crap and then suddenly turn into gods at the master level.

Most BH's are never going to be master BH's.

Most riflemen are never going to be master riflemen.

So why does the BH kick so much butt with just a couple skill boxes, but the rifleman has to be a master before he can even beat a BH at the mind-pool game? I don't even mind so much if BH's outdamage riflemen in every other way, but they should not be the masters of mind pool damage when that's the ONLY thing we have going for us.

If you don't count the warping mobs I don't think Riflemen is a broken class(maybe I just have a wierd system of defining terms gimpd/broken/underpowered). The DPS is far too low for group exp and leaves the Rifle line underpowered on the way up.Once you actually reach the Master level it evens out because of the speed bonus. If they were to spread the Master level speed bonus down through the lower levels I think it would help quite a bit without overpowering the profession. I just haven't been able to test it. There aren't enough Rifle speed tapes around and I'd like to see how much effect extra speed has as in whether it will make Riflemen more effective without giving dabblers near Master level speed and Headshot III.

Tek, if someone picks up just novice Bounty Hunter and Doctor/Combat Medic they will have 7 training points left total before they even start training in the actual skills.

Those are true damages, with Strafe Shot 2. Without a power up, I do 350-600, with a power up I do 400-700.

wow, while you guys are complaining about our eyeshots we're complaining about getting taken out with 1 shot from you guys!

when does the envy stop. i was going to go pistoleer but saw all the winers, then bh but they've become winers, next rifleman, but again nothing but whiners!

is there not a class filled with adults that actually like what they do and not stop so much to complain about what others do. if you get taken out by a bh it's b/c that's what bh specialize in. we take marks w/ 10k ham and the tactics from taken them out get used in pvp. practice, not our specials, make us stronger.

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JiveTimeMofo wrote:

we take marks w/ 10k ham and the tactics from taken them out get used in pvp. practice, not our specials, make us stronger.

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That makes sense in a way because there are no 10k HAM creatures in the game.

Taco listen I know they dont need to be a master to compete, BUT alot of times we have people saying it is a Novice BH, when really it is a Master Pistoleer with the BH pistol line maxed. Even if that is not the case yes they beat a Novice Rifleman, but when a BH hits master and fights a master rifleman he will lose more times then not, that I know from experience.

It is give and take man, it cant be balanced at every point of the game. People need to understand that, they have been told countless times make master and you will do very well against the classes that use to own you, I dont understand why they cant accept that.

I agree it can't be completely balanced at every stage. But still, eyeshot is about the equivalent of our entire class, even at master.It's one freaking attack! And you get it like 2 blocks in to bounty pistol. I think they could at least fix that glaring of an error.

Even if you beat the BH, you still have downtime, while they have none. That really shows up in a group scenario, where you need to immediately be able to take on another opponent. Are you against making eyeshot use mind HAM instead of action?

While I do generally agree with the Eyeshot issue (it should at the least cost a significant amount of mind to use) I don't think this is necessarily a fair comparison. And you can't simply neglect the situation at master; if class A is better at master than class B, but class B is better before master, it's not obvious that class B is better, if at all (eventually, anyone who wants to will get to master, since you never lose XP in this game).

Yeah, strafe2 generally hits healable damage, etc. etc. and Eyeshot has advantages over headshot - but strafe/flurry/startle2 are all -AE- effects. This is highly non-trivial. While the BH is busy taking down one target with Eyeshot, the rifleman has all his opponents stunned (which reduces damage by about one half in my experience), dizzy, and taking 500 points a second from strafe2. AE effects almost always dominate large group battles, and the BH cannot come close to competing with the rifleman in that regard. Maybe the rifleman loses one-on-one to a BH, most of the time, but in a big fight I'd much rather be the rifleman.

WayneInAustin, I'm pretty sure Hoabob was sarcastic in his post, at least that's how I perceived it...

are you not aware of character stat migration? a lot of bh's have moved majority of their primary stats to the secondary, making regen much faster. if your specials take a lot of mind, then buff your mind. max the willpower. my mind heals 2x as fast as my action and my will power is the same as my const. this may be why bh's seem more effective, esp in pvp. our secondary stats are maxed meaning less cost in specials and higher regen. it does leave us open for bigger hitters, but if we play it right we regen fast enough to recoup.

we do have your penalities. our weapon for the eyeshot is a low ham scout or fwg5 or even a high ham scatter pistol. put the right power upson it and you've lowered thehamcosts or increased the damage. it's not our fault that weapons of low ham are not made for riflemen.

so all you guys- pistoleers, riflemen, bh's, etc. stop saying "this class is better than us cause..."

the only true statement to make is player x is a better player than me. the only way to make the game better for you is to make your self better at the game.

if you've never played bh then you wouldn't know how our specials drain. but all of us, every single bh, is a master marksman. each of us has mindshot, headshot, and headshot 2 we know the drain w/ those shots. and with that we adapt.

Yah, you got us. There isn't a Riflemen around who has ever ever used Stat migration. In fact the game is already balanced, we just like to keep Q and Holo on their toes. You'd better go tell the Commandos the gig is up. They've been really getting into this balance thing.