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Acidictadpole

Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:57 pm

Just for some proof about how bad a master rifleman on his own can be..

I have a friend who is master rifleman/Master Doctor (If he see's this, im just using it as an example). I got Master rifleman a couple of months ago, regetting it from days of release because of new grinding methods i thought would make it easier now.

He and I had dueled many times before with my previous professions, (I switch a lot and he stays the same) wheni was a commando/smuggler/pistoleer he wooped me, when i was a carbineer he whooped me again, and when I got rifleman (I was a smuggler too, but i didnt use pistols) it was a close thing, but he whooped me again. All buffs and armor.

I recently took up TKM again. This time for those people who just a single rifleman couldnt kill, my ranged defence now over the cap, my objective was to stay as close as i can. Ruining his accuracy, and hitting with TKM.

Needless to say, without the hit rate of me being at 30m+ I kicked his butt easily, no damage to my HAM bars at all.

I ran an experiment the other night too, I don't remember the full numbers because I was too flabbergasted at how often i missed. I found someone with 123 Ranged defence just from melee professions. And stood about 20m from him. The results were ABOUT this:

-Miss-

-Dodge-

-Miss-

-304 Dmg-

-460 Dmg-

-Miss-

-Dodge-

-Miss-

That's at 20m, which most of the PvP battles are fought at. Neither of us Moving. I tried the same thing at 60m about 2 misses in 20 shots. So, basically this proves that rifleman are long ranged hitters that only do well when faced with an opponent far away..

I bet that most people in here that say that rifleman are PvP Godsdo not know about the rifleman class and what its supposed to be. Simply because once I found out, (By getting master rifleman) I dont even need rifleman to do it anymore, albeit with armor and buffs it makes it hella tough beating down a 3k mind with 80% kinetic armor with TKM. But I have done it.

All those that complain, do your homework on what the rifleman is bad at.

Just like in RL, if you meet a master rifleman out in an open field that has a mean look on his face and doesnt like you, your prolly gonna have a 15mm diameter hole in your head. But, around a city and between buildings which is where you should be if your not a rifleman you would have the advantage because you would need to draw the rifleman into that 20m and if you have a half decent PvP template you should win.

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guessit

Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:44 pm

#145

"The thing is, rifleman doseont need a nerf! The other profession needs to get better,"

Anytime someone uses this arguement, it is right before their profession gets nerfed. It is a roundabout admission of being overpowered. LOL.

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PsychoticChipmunk

Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:36 pm

#146

guessit wrote:

"The thing is, rifleman doseont need a nerf! The other profession needs to get better,"

Anytime someone uses this arguement, it is right before their profession gets nerfed. It is a roundabout admission of being overpowered. LOL.

Did you actually read any of the posts in this thread?

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guessit

Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:59 pm

#147

"Did you actually read any of the posts in this thread?"

Read most of them. Alot are riflemen wanting to defend their turf.

Ive tried all the ranged, and ill tell yah, from where I sit, rifle is "very" uber. Rifle/ranger is one of the funnest templates in the game.

There are decent advantages rifle get, the first being mind specific shots. The other is that they get damn close to speed cap at master + high damage weapons. I dont doubt that there aresome extremely highdmg rifles running around out there, combine that with speed cap, and yep ... you have a very sweet situation for the rifleman, and a not so sweet situation for the pistoleer/carbineer.

Ive been all 3 ranged and if I have to choose 1 for tehwin, itis without hesitation,rifle.Pistoleer and carbineer also have fun uses in pve, but im just not seeing any real advantage in pvp. Rifle isnt godly overpowered, but it is the best of the 3.

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Maaaaksman

Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:17 pm

#148

Out of all Hybrid proffesions, Rifleman is probably the most chalanging. I love Rifleman. The second I ligged on for the first time as a Novice Marksmen, I knew Rifleman was for me. But it was alot harder then I thought. But I still love it.

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PsychoticChipmunk

Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:42 am

#149

guessit wrote:

"Did you actually read any of the posts in this thread?"

Read most of them. Alot are riflemen wanting to defend their turf.

Ive tried all the ranged, and ill tell yah, from where I sit, rifle is "very" uber. Rifle/ranger is one of the funnest templates in the game.

There are decent advantages rifle get, the first being mind specific shots. The other is that they get damn close to speed cap at master + high damage weapons. I dont doubt that there aresome extremely highdmg rifles running around out there, combine that with speed cap, and yep ... you have a very sweet situation for the rifleman, and a not so sweet situation for the pistoleer/carbineer.

Ive been all 3 ranged and if I have to choose 1 for tehwin, itis without hesitation,rifle.Pistoleer and carbineer also have fun uses in pve, but im just not seeing any real advantage in pvp. Rifle isnt godly overpowered, but it is the best of the 3.

Yes but the other 2 hardly have any working specials for one, so that right there makes any comparisons highly flawed, and for two (as has been brought up a lot in here) rifles have good advantages...ok who am I kidding we have great advantages, but we also have some horrible negatives. Fight as a rifleman vs anything that cons white without a buff and you will see what all these negatives are. If you want make a newb toon on Bloodfin and I'll walk around and group with you so you can see my HAM bars during an unbuffed fight.

We aren't denying that under the current situation we are "uber" what we are declaring is that there are reasons for this beyond the rifleman profession. You never cut off a weed you take the problematic plant out by the root so the problem is truly fixed. That is what we want, and when that happens (nerfed buffs) we won't be as powerful. We may need to get tweaked after the fact but not nerfed. As it stands you honestly can't determine what stats need to be moved around to since we are all pro and no con if you play "smart" against everything.

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Squidwalker

Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:53 pm

#150

You are correct in your mind stat analogy. But some of the other professions are what are nerfed. It's not that rifle needs to be nerfed, its that the other professions, specifically Pistoleer and Carbineer, need to be brought up to speed. Even if pistoleer attacked mind, it would not be as powerful as rifles. It does less damage, at same speed(at master levels) has a lower damage dot, and more then half of the specials are broken.

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Cpl_Fisher

Wed May 18, 2005 6:50 pm

#151

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Ackehece

Wed May 18, 2005 8:01 pm

#152

GAH ! FISHER NO NECROS.... especially ones like this.... please!

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Ivon

Wed May 18, 2005 8:31 pm

#153

holy banzai necro batman!

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PyscoJuggalo

Wed May 18, 2005 8:33 pm

#154

Looks like the Evil of Nerfidor has returned.

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ShadowCM

Thu May 19, 2005 4:28 pm

#155

no. Did you notice the date yet? Last july, when HAM was still in effect.

If we could damage the mind pool that would be amazing, but we cant

And if you think about it sniper shot does lower health. Your health would lower even if you got shot in the legs or your head in real life, wouldn't it?

Now we have dps, and we all pretty much are happy in the fact that we all can stick around 300-500and that shows that we're all equal, and with the mix up of skills, we can use any attack with a rifle. If you have the combat level from pistoleer, pick up a laser rifle and start stopping/intimidating/fan shotting. If you're a rifleman you can still quickdraw and critical shot, not even mention swinging your rifle around. This is what the cu is for, btw. That's probably the only reason why I'm still in the game, thought we rifleman got a hugea$ nerf

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TalKurgan

Thu May 19, 2005 4:36 pm

#156

braaaaaiiiiins...

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