Rifleman Archive

We all know that T21's suck and that pistoleers get all the attention. but what about us rifleman? We suck if we are alone during PvP unless we are just more experienced than our apponent. DEV's seriously need to get rifleman stats better and T21's also (and easier to get)

Just reply if you agree. It's a conspiracy! lol.

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SteinSlasher wrote:

We all know that T21's suck and that pistoleers get all the attention. but what about us rifleman? We suck if we are alone during PvP unless we are just more experienced than our apponent. DEV's seriously need to get rifleman stats better and T21's also (and easier to get)

Just reply if you agree. It's a conspiracy! lol.

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Nope not signing! They will fix it in due time. If you want to have power...go buy a laser rifle and keeping buying them until your slicer gets a damage slice. Then buy a 33% damage power up. By this time your gun should be in the 670-700 range. Mine is at 693. Now you can hit for tons. For me bout 1 out of 3 of my shots are over 2000. And 1 in 25 go to 3000. Add that with flurry shot and you get one major killing machine!

So you can DOT you opponet with Mind Shot for 100-3000 damage. Woot!

Droid, that's only true if you hit in the first couple shots and kill it. With a laser rifle you are jsut as likely to have those low dmg hits too. The min dmg stats on this wpn suck. Hit twice for bad dmg rolls, and/or on something with good armour, and it aggros you and you have to chg weapons or it gets the x2.5 multiplier for melee dmg while you are armed with the rifle. There is definately a problem here.

"so everyone seems to like pistoleer"

Remember that Dev quote

The only reason I use my scatter pistol over my T21 is because the DEVS screwed it over!!!

I don't think the DEVs are being unfair and punishing us. I just think the DEVs are very unclear on how to proceed with Rifleman.

They know the problems they just don't have answers. I'd rather they thought it out for a bit than just implement some quick pacifier that looks great and even works great but really doesn't fix a lot of things.

Also on a side note, rifleman are a very touchy class. Currently you have the firing difference between novice and master, which isn't as distinguishable in the other ranged weapons because of their innately low firing rate. This is the current problem. They want to increase DPS, but since rifleman is the only ranged class that has that huge speed jump, increasing the DPS of a novice will *greatly* increase the DPS of master. This is probably where the "3 second cap" idea came from that's being tossed around. With this speed variable here, it is tricky to stay within the confines of the current architecture of the game and still maintain balance with the rifleman class.

This is what we saw with pre-nerf T21s. An attempt to fix a weapon witout considering what a master rifleman could do with it.

It's going to take a lot more work to come up with a thoughtful solution to this problem, and yes I believe they have guys working on it.

No I don't believe it's going to be in tomorrow's patch notes.

But I'd rather wait for them to do something right than to screw it up real fast.

I will side on Droid w/ this issue.

Just give it time. I'm going MASTER rifleman KNOWING whats instore, i just have faith in the DEVs to fix us soon. No MMORPG came out perfect the first time around.

Faith and hope, 2 of human kind's greatest power, and worst weakness.

Thanks for all of your opinions, and though i don't agree that the DEV's are working on all the problems because "Mind can't be healed in battle" so it is supposedly fair, I will openly listen to all dissagreements (if i spelled that right, no spell check for me :smileytongue.

NO T-21 ON RADIANT.

aah. when they knockdown me ? what i have to do? just see how i die? pistolers and bountys, they are real riflemans knockdowing at 60 meters!

Did you guys know that every profession is speed capped at 1 second currently? I read in a response to a dev thread a rifleman saying pistols are .5 at master. That isn't true, it's just a proposed change. Currently everyone has the same cap.

Laser suck on Naritus compared to T21 because of the consistancy and the stats on Laser.

Typical laser on Naritus:

30-360 damage, 6.0 delay, 60 mind

Typical T21 on Naritus:

134-334 damage, 7.1 delay, 71 mind

Sliced, neither one is over500 damage on the top.

Both pre-sliced. Always choose the T21 over laser if you have similar stats on your server. The T21 hits way more consistantly for more damage. At master the Delay is not a worry on any of your weapons.

Zamook - Master Sharpshooter, Master CH, Naritus

They got the 3 second Idea from a Pistoleer, read my post on it. It's an old post I found in the Pistoleer forum.

Ya their unfair to us, Carbineers, Pikemen, swordsmen, fencers, TKA's, BE's, DE'S, ect......

Why? Were the minority, we need to join with these classes and get numbers. Half of the jackasses out there play UBER cookie cutter classes, the other half is devided. We need to unite.