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Thread: The sad state of the T-21

Badhorsey
Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:35 am
#1

I was just wondering if anyone is still using t-21 for every day hunting? Laser rifles have higher damage potential, lower speed (not that it really matters at master), lower HAM costs and AR2, why wouldn't we use them over that high drain pea shooter the t-21. I can't belive they couldn't give us some damage values back when theymade commandos gods! Is it just me or it it completely illogical!? I wish they would fix it cos i and many others have worked very hard on our characters and been very let down. I am a master and it annoys that i am weak compared to many other masters purley because of my choice of profession, its not as if its easier to master either, in fact i think its one of the more tricky and tactical classes to get to grips with.


Please Devs help us out and fix us a bit, just make us competitive again!



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GeovaniVersace
Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:40 am
#2

Yup, why use my stupid 324 dmg T21 when I have a 488 dmg laser rifle? This pisses me off to no end. I finally get to use/buy a T21 and it isn't even as good as what I was using before. But BH and commandos get guns that do 700+dmg easily, and pistoleers get 200+dmg guns that have a 1.x attack speed? **edit** how about some balance?
Grrowl
Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:57 am
#3

I personally would rather have guns that are good in different situations. Like the Jawa, verses laser. I don't really want a best weapon I guess.

Right now I use my t21 for non bleed shots, laser for bleeds, Jawa if they have that insane resist composit (heard about some 97% resist, but, personally have only seen 68, but, that's enough for me to pull out trusty Jawa).

I would love to find a use for the tuskan. Coolest sounding/looking gun we have. Guess the answer would be to have people make a choice on resist for composit (not just have it do resist to everything but stun), or, to give each damage type a different effect (like having cold damage slow target (go SG81)).
-Myrick-
Fri Oct 10, 2003 10:26 am
#4

I use the T-21 all the time. If you want those crappy 45 bleeds as much as the higher ones, go ahead and use the laser. But hell i don't even bleed anymore. Just strafeshot2 now, was flushingshot 2 before that.


T21 is consistant, something a laser rifle isnt' I don't mind taking a hit on max damage if my average shot is going to be this much higher. Also with a damage slice and 33% power up for max damage, my t21 has a max of 575 ish. Don't have exact number right now. It's also AP 3.... but with ap acting funny at the moment, its not a strong point.


Of course I wouldn't mind damage increased on the T-21 but i do like it the way it is. Only real problem with theT-21 is that its energy which all armor protects against. Something a little more interesting would be nice.


Tusken rifle is supposed to be kinetic damage. Which would be good vs bone armor and some creatures.




Myrick

Rasputiin
Fri Oct 10, 2003 11:02 am
#5

I always use my T21, I like the consistent dmg it does.


The laser is nice but I hate the lower end dmg shots.





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Quas
Fri Oct 10, 2003 11:18 am
#6

Fact is still that if you fire 10 shots it's more likely that a tier 2 marksman weapon (the laser) will do more damage than the T21 on average. Sure, the T21 can be usefull for bleeds as you really only got one shot for a bleed and then you dont want one for200 or below.



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Imperial Master Tactician
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MasterMollica
Fri Oct 10, 2003 4:04 pm
#7

I have not seen these problems on bloodfin. Laser rifles are at best around 410. T21 are almost 400 max. This is without enhancers or slicing or pu's. Our slicer got 35% damage on one of the T21,and it isalmost 540 max.



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McDeth
Fri Oct 10, 2003 5:01 pm
#8

Whats really cool is looking at commando weapons that do 1200-3500 damage with one shot every 2 seconds. I mean, wow. Talk about totally inbalanced?



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Sicarim
Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:30 pm
#9

I recently purchased a T-21 And before I had heard it wouldbe a disapointment... and it was. Authough its Action and Health damage is higher... the mind is rediculously low! Whats with this rifle I paid 23k for? Best rifle in the game? I think not!



Sicarim Amafa
Grrowl
Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:40 pm
#10

For some reason I don't seem to get low bleeds with laser. Think I got a 130 once or twice, but, normally its a 900 to 2k. And if I am bleeding a mob, I always apply two and always make sure both are 900 or above. Sometimes this takes three shots, but, normally just 2. I been wondering if the damage for weapons (atleast laser) is weighted. Then again, never wondered enough to actually test:]
Jordan_Karr
Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:40 pm
#11

I have made 3 buys of t-21s so far...


first the mind drain was like 132


second one the mind drain is like 98


and my new one


Mind cost is 71


I really like my T-21, but I do have a problem with it...


1) The Movie weapon it is based off is a Light Repeater Blaster Cannon...
So it should fire really fast... Witch it does not do at all.. Mine with speed power ups is like 5.1 seconds
Base speed should be like 5 before slice or Powerups


2) It need to pack more of a punch..... Its one of the most difficult rifles to build, according to my Master Weaponsmith friend... takes a ton of rare materials and load of componets to make just one...
It needs a damage range in the area of 450 to 650 per shot... This would make the weapon worth something...

I get caught a lot when things charge me... and the T-21 is still cycling for its next shot... Thank god I still carry a spray stick...




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Mirek
Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:03 pm
#12

Found the following on a geocities page: (http://www.geocities.com/ssdnemesis/database/armoury.html)

BlasTech TL-21 Light Repeater Rifle
Ammo: 110 Range: 300
A one and a half metre long weapon, used by Stormtrooper heavy weapons specialists. At least one or two troopers in every squad are issued one while not in close quarters, since it is very accurate and delivers alot of firepower quickly. Also, the ST-II, as it is called by the ranks, is well balanced and can also be mounted on a bi-pod.
vaalenko
Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:16 pm
#13

I really dont know what are you talking about. Laser rifle sucks, simply because of low min damage. My sliced T21 with 168-460 and 72 mind cost is far far better than any Laser rifle you can find.



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