Rifleman Archive

# Defensive Modifiers will have a hard cap with profession template stacking. Defense stacking will no longer stack beyond the intended combat calculation limits causing the defender to be nigh invulnerable.
# Carbineer Specials have been improved:
# The dizzy effect in /fullAutoSingle1, /fullAutoSingle2, /fullAutoArea1 & /fullAutoArea2 have been improved
# /burstShot2 was changed from a single target to an AE cone attack
# /actionShot2 now hits all targets in the area of effect.
# Defense / To-Hit Fixes:
# Melee attackers now get a To Hit bonus when attacking targets with ranged weapons.
# Dodge enhancing Food now decreases your chance of being hit.
# Accuracy increasing food now increases your chance to hit your target.
# Dead Eye buff now increases your chance to hit your target.
# Warcry has been changed from being a single target lock down preventing it from attacking to a method of "crowd control". Enemies can be temporarily prevented from attacking as long as they are not currently being attacked themselves.
# Bleed DoT Improvements: Targeted pool bleeds (/mindShot1 & 2, /healthShot1 & 2, etc) now hit their intended pool on the initial strike as well as the bleed damage.

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that is what is changing next patch. looks like fixes not nerfs to me. so will all the newbie trolls please stop the "OMG the sky is falling posts".

unless you can cite actual dev posts on a forum saying there is X nerf to rifle please stop asking about it. if you have seen a post by a dev that the rest of us have missed please post the link. quoting some kid talking to a nameless CSR as proof of anything is just proof your a troll...

So what you are saying is that we are at this level?

Message Edited by PsychoticChipmunk on 02-23-2004 11:34 AM

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PsychoticChipmunk wrote:

So what you are saying is that we are at this level?

Message Edited by PsychoticChipmunk on 02-23-2004 11:34 AM

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ROFL basically.

im just saying there is no point to panic and it is exactly what i was refering to when i made the post about how our weaknesses should be handled. we havent even SEEN the real changes yet and people are panicing over a 6 month old proposed nerf that got shotdown two days after it was floated. i wont mention it, it would just give the damn thing more life.

yah i'm with you...even though the "alleged" nerf's are for patch 8. The DEV's seem to be moving away from their "nerf it all to hell" programming. All I have heared from these nerf's is that

a) CSR told some kid = Bull**edit**

b) Board Mod's accidentaly gave access to CM's into a "secret meeting" for 45 mins where they learned of all the upcoming rifle nerf's and now they get deleted when ever they post them = bull**edit**

and besides if it gets the FOTM's and the people who want rifle to be powerfull in every situation out of the proffession...then good...cheaper guns for me!

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Fishtank wrote:

yah i'm with you...even though the "alleged" nerf's are for patch 8. The DEV's seem to be moving away from their "nerf it all to hell" programming. All I have heared from these nerf's is that

b) Board Mod's accidentaly gave access to CM's into a "secret meeting" for 45 mins where they learned of all the upcoming rifle nerf's and now they get deleted when ever they post them = bull**edit**

and besides if it gets the FOTM's and the people who want rifle to be powerfull in every situation out of the proffession...then good...cheaper guns for me!

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No. Everyone was made the Combat Medic Correspondant for about 45 minutes. Which means you get access to all the correspondant forums. The only thing "secret" about those forums is that noone is allowed to see them, and Klaw won't give any info out of them. And yes, every thread that has been made discussing this has been deleted. No reasoning, still haven't got a response from any of the forums mods as to why.

But whatever, I'm done with it. I know what I read, believe me if you want or not. If the forum gods ever screw up and give Correspondant access out to the general public again (this is the 3rd time they've done it now, you'd think they would learn) I'll be happy to post the links to the threads I read it in for all to see.

But please. If you are going to make a lame attempt to insult me, and my concern over the proffesion, at least get the facts about my posts correct. I honestly am beyond caring about what happens anymore. I'm happy as a Doc now, and Rifle will just be a supplement to that it seems, rather than the other way around. If I am wrong come Publish 8, "Yay!" another month of being uber 1337. Another month of everyone and their brother walking around with a T-21. If I'm right, we get the rifleman forums back down to 10 active posters.

Good day.

haha easy tiger, no offense meant. I just read your post a week or 2 back and dismissed it that's all. I don't know everything so I will take that back.

I was just saying that I don't really think there will be a massive secret nerf. People are all worked up about a myth. Maybe you did see all the stuff you mentioned, but that doesn't mean they won't change it, and that doesn't mean the changes won't be very minimal. Untill they post their proposed changes for patch 8 people should just relax there is plenty of time tofreak outthen, they won't listen to us if wecomplain about stuff we just don't know anything about.

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Fishtank wrote:

haha easy tiger, no offense meant. I just read your post a week or 2 back and dismissed it that's all. I don't know everything so I will take that back.

I was just saying that I don't really think there will be a massive secret nerf. People are all worked up about a myth. Maybe you did see all the stuff you mentioned, but that doesn't mean they won't change it, and that doesn't mean the changes won't be very minimal. Untill they post their proposed changes for patch 8 people should just relax there is plenty of time tofreak outthen, they won't listen to us if wecomplain about stuff we just don't know anything about.

But then again I don't expect to drop large groups of enemies in under 5 seconds, I don't expect to be able to drop everyone in 2 shots, I don't expect to be extremely effective no matter what range I am in, I don't expect rifleman to be the perfect choice for every combat situation. So maybe if you do expect these things than the big bad "nerf" is coming.

I don't think that riflemen who have been around since the end of summer are paralyzed in fear from these changes, it's the FOTM's that only have these skills that are scared, and they should be cause they are screwed. They didn't have to learn their proffession, they just had to spend 5 days mastering it then they had to click the same skill button over and over. I don't think we will be useless after they finish with us, I think we will be better balanced with other players and our fair fight won't be us vs 10 it will be 1 on 1, with the odd wins against 1 vs 2 or 3 like other classes (cept cm's but that's not for this forum). There will be small changes to us and more boosts to other classes like we saw this patch. People say if we loose our speed, we loost our ability to drop people before they get to us...how balanced is that? gotta be real guys, acid rifle might give us a boost up close if they hammer our speed. And we can already get around knockdowns a bit better if you don't mind putting in the effort.

ANYWAY...I don't think we are gonna get hit that hard at all, and would rather wait and see an official post before I start to worry, maybe I will be right in there with everyone else screamin, but prolly not. So yah...drop it already

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Thanks for being cool about this. I didn't really think you meant much in the way of offense, but I'm sick of being met with hostility at all sides. As for your second paragraph, no I don't expect to drop large groups, but the average PVP battle lasts about 5-6 seconds. With a 3 second hard cap, thats 2-3 shots. With an overall damage reduction, it hurts our chances of getting that high roll to knock someone off. If we get a low roll on a shot, 9/10 times we are probably dead in that situation.

Actually thanks to all the new FoTM riflemen I now walk around carrying my beam rifle or a spraystick. The only thing that gives me away is I like the soldier title, but as soon as I hit urban planner or accountant or warmasternoone is going to know what to expect when they see this Bothan walking around.

i just use the master CH title cuz it gets me the odd rancor sale or mount sale when im busy doing something else.

My Title still says "Master Marksman" even though I dropped it a couple of monts ago, it gives me that certain N00B look so that people who decide they want to take me on if I'm overt are in for a rude surprise... hehe! Dunno why that title stays, I've tried changing it a couple of times but it comes back every time I log in. I just ended up living with it..

In an atmosphere of silence, rumor and fear will thrive, thats just the nature of things. If they would be more openinstead ofreleasing what they are going to do two weeks before they implement it, rumors and fear would not spread.

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In an atmosphere of silence, rumor and fear will thrive, thats just the nature of things. If they would be more openinstead ofreleasing what they are going to do two weeks before they implement it, rumors and fear would not spread.

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An excerpt from the riflenomicon, what pure evil doth it contain?