Rifleman Archive

Thread: A New Hope: No Major Nerf?

Rugbyman
Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:48 am
#1

maybe it's not my place to post this, but all of the apocalyptic nerf posts are missing one key point:SOE loves money. we don't have to tell them we're going to leave SWG if they kill our profession; i'm surethey know it.i would bet that the devsrecognize that nerfing ALL of those aspects (strafe2, melee dmg, and speed cap) would absolutely kill the profession. obvious is obvious, and they may choose to disregard us as customers, but i'm sure they also recognize the consequences of doing so. if they make us drop rifleman because the profession sucks, then we have our choice of other games to go to. while that bites that we no longer have this game to enjoy, SOE can enjoy the economic downfall that followsfrom beingirresponsive to its customers. if they are blatantly disregarding our wishes, then they are likely doing the same with other professions, and bad business always comes back to haunt a company in a competitive economy, which the MMORG market certainly is.


so take faith, my rifle-wielding brothers and sisters, because i don't think the nerf will be as bad as the doomsayers predict. let's keep our fingers crossed, and our T21s close by our sides.


che guevara, intrepid
Galacticspaceferett
Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:50 pm
#2


*** Please watch your language and refrain from trolling.

Message Edited by Jeassa on 03-06-2004 08:07 AM



- As I see it, Sony has until July 31st 2004 to pull content, balance and most importantly "fun" out of a hat and into the game for me. I guess I can list "buying a non-refundable year's subscription" down as one of the dumbest decisions made in my life. Congradulations SoE, you took 200 bucks from me. -
CreatrueHandler
Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:56 pm
#3

How about you pull your head out of your ass and look around. Your profession is probably in the LAST position to whine and rant about things. Wanna see something scary? Go visit a pistoleer or carbineer forum.


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and why dont you stick your head in your ass....


want to see something funny.... read these boards... sick and tired of you freaking trolls coming here and screaming nerf this and that because you suck at PvP....so what.. who the f@%k cares... go away..


go some where else .. the smell of you is making me sick to my stomach... jask ass...





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Zathrus
Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:33 pm
#4

/ignore 2nd post

Just like to say that I am a Rifleman (not master but getting there and no it's not a holo thing and I have been a rifleman since day one I'm just taking my time).

Your argument does make sense but look what happened to Creature Handler, they've been hit with the
nerf bat in almost every single publish. I don't want to complain about CH problems but I'm just saying
that it has happened already to at least one proffesion. Maybe they learned from this I don't know but
I sure hope that you are correct with your assumpiton.



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kirstar
Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:53 am
#5

2nd post 1 star'd for being a jerk.



anyway I understand your reasoning but here is a counter.


By nerfing rifleman they make all those other idiots who moan about us all the time happy, keeping their money. We then moan that we are broke so they fix us a little with a promise to make our classs useful again with the next oatch. After our nerf, the whiners find another class that they dont like so that gets nerfed etc etc etc


Also those people who took rifleman because of its rep as THE CLASS, will move to another class which is the new super class. This will take time and they will still be paying.





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Wabit
Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:51 am
#6






Zathrus wrote:
/ignore 2nd post

Just like to say that I am a Rifleman (not master but getting there and no it's not a holo thing and I have been a rifleman since day one I'm just taking my time).

Your argument does make sense but look what happened to Creature Handler, they've been hit with the
nerf bat in almost every single publish. I don't want to complain about CH problems but I'm just saying
that it has happened already to at least one proffesion. Maybe they learned from this I don't know but
I sure hope that you are correct with your assumpiton.






Speaking as a MCH, well there isn't much left to nerf with our profession... honestly, our pets are so buggy right now; not following, autostoring, broken special attacks, "rare" babies, ect...; that it makes the class unplayable for alot of ppl... the only time i use it now is when i want to make some money on missions... we get literaly no responce from SOE ppl... the one thing we have been asking for for months now (no camp restrictions for calling pets) we are finally getting (kinda)... and thats only because of the amount of ppl the have bikes that autostore on them 10k from anywhere... and even this concession is weak, 15 sec wait after you call the pet/bike, and you can't call it for 30 secs after combat... but this is the rifleman forum so i shouldn't complain about CH...


well i'm concerned about the "unoffical" word floating around the forum, i actully started a toon on TC tonight and am gonna work my way to MRifle/MCH/Ranger 0/0/3/0 (wouldn't it be nice to have a toon clone option?)... gonna be a long road for the CH side of it, but i want to be done before patch 8 hits TC... then i'll be one of the first to know what these changes are most likely gonna be...


Wabit




I can just see a "Wait for the Combat Revamp" and "Wait for the Smuggler Revamp" quote all rolled into one.
"Wait for the Smuggbat Revamp"
Smuggbat, I like that
ElrohirSoR
Thu Mar 04, 2004 10:45 am
#7

i will hold out any thought of quiting till publish 8 announcement is made and then decide from there. I would admit it would be horrible to think that now that our profession is where it should be (fixed in the most part except Block) that we get nerfed back to a broken profession. Either way since publish 7 has yet to hit live server and I would imagine we Rifleman have another one and half to 2 month of play before any potential nerf. Oh if they do they better fix block.



Elrohir
Master Rifleman/TKM / Marksman 4004/Brawler 4300/Nove medi and scout

GTSimmo
Master Swordsman/Master Doctor
Previously: Master Fencer, TKM, Brawler, Carbineer, Marksman, RIfleman, Armorsmith, Artisan, Combat Medic, Entertainer, ID, and Scout
SaltOdin
Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:04 pm
#8

Well, I guess nerfs are inevitable in this bloody game. Look at what happened to MCH. Now we're just glorified zookeepers. Look at the amount of posts in the forum that asks for the head of the CM now. One valuable lesson I learnt in SWG: "Whiners are winners."


I've set down my T21 and waits for my subscription to end this 14th.


Looking forward to another MMORPG, probably EQ2 (even though it's still from SOE LoL)


PS: Don't ask me for my stuff as I've given them all away long ago.





- I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
Your voice counts!
OditeFosore
Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:29 pm
#9




Galacticspaceferett wrote:
How about you pull your head out of your ass and look around. Your profession is probably in the LAST position to whine and rant about things. Wanna see something scary? Go visit a pistoleer or carbineer forum.




Trolling trolling trolling, keep those trolls a trolling....LMAO. Hear us calling for nerfs on carbiners or pistoleers? No, actually we've all said it a million times that carbiners need their specials fixed and need better HAM costs. Cap riflemen at 3 secs and we're worthless. How about you trolls wait till they fix the melee defense bug and see how it goes from there instead of being jerks on our riflemen boards. No one asked for your opinion. RIflemen are a community that sticks together, we have many constructive posts and threads, and we don't need your belligerent, swearing posts.


Cheers,


- Odite Fosore





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Rugbyman
Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:08 pm
#10

thanks for the solidarity on the troll that posted right after me. i just looked at the publish 7 notes and i didn't see much in the way of a speed cap or damage nerf. did i miss it? i'm not even being facetious here, i sometimes overlook different parts because there's so much in there that doesn't really concern me. from what i saw, we survived publish 7 very well. so once again, did i miss something or are we pretty much safe for the time being?


che guevara, intrepid
HeadRoll
Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:13 pm
#11

maybe it's not my place to post this, but all of the apocalyptic nerf posts are missing one key point:SOE loves money.


When did you start playing SWG, just last week?


If what you say is true, SOE loves to much money to nerf <insert profession here>, then take a poll over on the CH boards, then stroll by the Swordsman and Commando boards and ask them how they feel about the "DOT" Changes that was implemented as recently as the last publish.


SoonToBeBountyHunter
Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:14 pm
#12

well, i didn't bother reading on from the 4th post since i got tired, if anyone mentioned this oh well.


SOE just can't say ignore the whiners. they finally fixed rifleman it's fine. they got it now they should be moving on to different proffesions but no. whining bastards love to leave SOE stuck at nerfing and not fixing.SOE are the ones who need to stick their heads out of each others asses. rifleman=fine, nothing to fix, nothing to nerf. and if you think they are the best at pvp, take a look at a CM or a different strategy. maybe, get some stun armor /gasp. or become a pistoleer/cm something, theres always a proffesion to overcome the proffesion your having trouble killing, people need to expirement, maybe try holo grinding to see what proffesions are bad ass.



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I decided Not To Go BH...lol...
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Rugbyman
Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:56 pm
#13

dagen,


bro, if you hate SOE so much, you know where the door is. they are a company, and if you don't like the way they do things, it's your right to leave. i'm not defending SOE at all; i just can't understand why so many players seem SO dramatic about a video game. hopefully SWG is just a distraction from RL for you, not anything you really get agitated about. for what it's worth, i hear SOE is putting in a new profession in publish 8 for people just as frustrated as you: PSYCHIATRISTS. you'd better start saving your credits, because with all your whining, i'm sure you're not mentally or emotionally healthy enough to even run worrt missions. good luck with anger management.


che guevara, intrepid


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