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Thread: The unbelievable cost of shooting

SmoothOperator
Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:23 pm
#1

Ok I just got master rifleman.

Up until now my stat mods and/or drugs have kept my ham costs livable. I could spam specials at a mob without having to worry about it.
Thing is, now that I´ve got master, the speed I shoot is obviously a LOT higher and my little old ham just can´t take it.

My question is: How do you guys cope with this?

I´ve tried muon and then a good stim every 20 secs but it doesnt work.
Tried brandy and a pixie but near enough the same and I dont like downers anyway.
And getting a buff every time I want to shoot something just isn´t practical.
And my rifle´s costs arent that high. I have the same problem with a dlt20a.


**edit**?




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Osmi
Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:37 pm
#2

boohoo


something bad about our profession, and you start to whine!




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SmoothOperator
Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:39 pm
#3

aah bite me ya moron

I just wanted to know if there is way of dealing with it.
jeesh do some people have an automatic flame or what?




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PsychoticChipmunk
Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:45 pm
#4

I'm a Bothan so I can't get the super high substats like humans do but I find things to be just fine. Migrate everything over there if you haven't already. AllI take is 1 muon, well timed, duringthe firstpiket mission (roughly halfway through but closer to theend if anything) and I can do them constantly.The downtime wears off right about when I get back to the base and grab a second mission group. No food nor any buffs required. Just be sure to get a high damage low cost weapon if you can. Now my bar does stay low through most of the fight and I do get dangerously close to incapping myself but if you can do strafes and figure out when to just use normals it works pretty well. If you want to keep your mind up in the 500 range almost constantly during a fight then you'll need food on top of the spice or an entertianer buff. Beyond that there isn't anything else you can do but sit around and wait for the regen.



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Onichi
Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:46 pm
#5

Well your Secondary stats Strength / Quickness / Focus all have to be above like 1400-1500 for you to have minimal to no HAM costs, if they are not, you will drain your HAM and you will drain it FAST



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SmoothOperator
Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:51 pm
#6

I already have my secondaries at full blast and as a zabrak 1400 is only a dream without buffs.
Guess I´ll have to find a better weapon and a good chef.

Thanks for the (helpful) posts




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Onichi
Thu Feb 26, 2004 6:01 pm
#7






SmoothOperator wrote:
I already have my secondaries at full blast and as a zabrak 1400 is only a dream without buffs.
Guess I´ll have to find a better weapon and a good chef.

Thanks for the (helpful) posts





Wooops! Should have mentioned buffing... If I am going to do any sort of serious combat I always go in buffed and use some Varasian Brandy or Muon for the Mind buff.. It's a must at Master to be really effective.



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BadKarma777
Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:50 pm
#8


I always carry a couple bottles of Vasarian Brandy with me. Always.


Two shots and specials are FREE for the next 45 minutes. =)



P.S.


Food has no downer. Brandy != Spice.


I have never used spice and now that Chef has been revamped I never will.

Message Edited by BadKarma777 on 02-26-2004 07:51 PM



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__Quantum__
Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:53 pm
#9

2x+400 Vasarian Brandy/2x+300 or more Vagarian (sp?) Canape




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HARP00N
Thu Feb 26, 2004 10:22 pm
#10






SmoothOperator wrote:

And getting a buff every time I want to shoot something just isn´t practical.






thats my problem with the profession. It pisses me off that you must be very rich and a hardcore gamer with no life outside the game so you can afford tons of buffs constantly. you see someone, you hti yourself with 3000 credits worth of buffs, you kill them (and even thats not guaranteed)... then they run out after a while. They died, lost nothing, you lost 3000 credits.
Bael80
Fri Feb 27, 2004 7:20 am
#11

All I read in your post is either frustration or envy Harpoon. You do not need to be a hardcore gamer to be rich enough to buy PvP grade equipment, buffs etc. You just need to understand the game, be innovative to make money.


- buy some second hand harvesters, drop them and sell ressources. Learn to know what s in high demand, keep track of the quality spawns and mine them.( it takes 3 hours per week )

- Farm high priced meats (avian comes to mind as the best sells for 150cpu on eclipse). Farming 3 hours each day for 4 days I got 12k units.


be creative and the money will flow.
Sandzibarr
Fri Feb 27, 2004 7:36 am
#12






HARP00N wrote:


They died, lost nothing, you lost 3000 credits.






hmm usually they lose fp and you gain some... so if you gain 30 per kill at the current exchange rate for fp thats: 30x110 = 3300 credits worth gained


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Therakus
Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:02 am
#13









HARP00N wrote


thats my problem with the profession. It pisses me off that you must be very rich and a hardcore gamer with no life outside the game so you can afford tons of buffs constantly. you see someone, you hti yourself with 3000 credits worth of buffs, you kill them (and even thats not guaranteed)... then they run out after a while. They died, lost nothing, you lost 3000 credits.





Your only problem, HARP00N,is that you don't listen to anything you've been told in the threads about making money. I play 1-2hrs per night. I am a master rifleman. When I need money I head out to Yavin 4 and run klilnik missions. Now lets do the math here:

1 set of doc buffs in Coronet: 10k
20 doses of Vasarian Brand +441 Mind/Focus/WillPwr, 49 fillingfor 39min: 20k - 30k
Round trip to Yavin 4 from Coronet: 8k

Total set up cost 40-50k. This could be less since the case of brandy is good for 10 sets of hits for a total of 6.5 gameplay hours, so you don't have to buy a case for every session in my example.

Now, I getmy doc buffs and I hop on shuttle to Yavin 4, take 2 missions for klinik lars at 12k payout each.I make sure to spend 1 minute at the terminal and get missions in the same direction. I get on my bike and drive over to a lair about 700m away. I dismount. I take 2 hits of brandy (start 39 min timer now). I pull out a T21 / Laser sliced for damage and equipped with 33% max damage / 16 % min damage mod. I spam Advanced Strafe at the lair. The lair goes down in about 30-45 seconds. Hop back on the bike, drive to the next lair and repeat.

You've just earned a total 24k! Time involved5 minutes tops.
Drive back to outpost and get another 2 missions. Repeat.


You've just earned a total of 48k! Hey your buffs are paid for and you still have 29 minutes left over on your Vasarian.

Repeat 5 more times until vasarian runs out - you've earned 120k of profit. That'snearly 300% return on investment in 40 minutes of gameplay. You do this 7 nights in a row and you'll have around 800k. You are rich and you've only spent 1hr / day playing the game. You're now set to go off and duel 266 people at 3k per buff as you say in your post, which, believe me, will take you longer than 7 hrs of gameplay to accomplish. By the way, if you're taking vasarian brandy, duel one person with it and let it run out, then you're wasting a buff. If you duel for 5 minutes, you still have 30 minutes of vasarian left. GO RUN SOME MISSIONS!

It is trivial to earn money in this game as a master rifleman. That's the incentive of mastering an elite profession, the reward you get for all the hard work you put in while getting to the top. So quit wasting time whining about being poor and work a little for it. Next thing we know Patch 8 will introduce a bloody welfare system for lazy newbies.




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