Rifleman Archive
Thread: **edit**? Rifleman is useless!
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Naktu
Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:33 pm
#1
Ok, I'm having a really hard time with rifleman. I'm a Ranger and as such make my money hunting and selling creature resources. But as rifleman, this isn't very effective. The recent spawn of Nabooian Wooly Hide, well, I was only able to pick up 5k of the stuff before it despawned because rifling is so SLOW. I picked up a damage sliced T21 as was suggested by another rifleman, and it does decent damage, but the speed is 7.5! That's useless. Even a mediocre laser rifle is much more effective, because it fires over twice as fast. I tried going to the squill cave, dead almost immediately because after one or two Head2/Conceal shots, which do maybe half a HAM bar of damage, they aggro and close to melee, where rifle is COMPLETELY useless. And I'm firing from 60m laying prone. Krayt Graveyard, even shooting Banthas for 900 XP, which is pretty much a waste of time considering the hundreds of thousands of XP you need, takes 2 or 3 hits. 2 or 3 hits at 7.5 seconds each for 900 XP??? And forget about Rancors or Nightsis, can't even thouch em, you get a few shots before they aggro and then they're too close and too tough to hurt. How do you make a successful profession out of rifleman?! Anything bigger than a Bantha is just not worth trying to kill, they close to melee range and then it's either suicide or a waste of time.
oblivion3134
Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:49 pm
#2
Master Rifleman gets +90 speed mods, which puts you very close to the 1 shot a second speed cap. With a heavy damage T21 you still will fire a shot under every 2 seconds.
deviousanarchy
Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:58 pm
#3
You dont level with banthas. Everyone levels in dant. If you're not master yet and are semi-halfway through the rifleman tree, go do huurton stalker missions. About 85-90k a mission. The rifleman truly shines when its master, which makes it the best ranged class out there. Comes to the point where damage sliced or speed sliced dont make a difference, just strafe2 everything and you should be fine. Save the concealshot for the bigger guys 
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jdmaldo
Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:00 pm
#4
wow, you're a dumbass. you just called arguably the best profession in the game useless. congrats.
kenkenken
Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:02 pm
#5
my guild leader warned me when i just started this prof, he
said that rifleman is one the best combat professions
there is ONCE you master it. it is very tough to be a
novice rifleman, because as you have mentioned you suffer
from extremely slow rate of fire. so you have to make up
for it by using the other shots available to you, not just
spamming headshots to clumps of squills. use the warning shot i think, i forget what its called but it drives them
away for a lil while.
im not master yet but im doing pretty well already, get to countersniping III early to get flushing shot 2, and mind shot2 and headshot3 are also helpful
said that rifleman is one the best combat professions
there is ONCE you master it. it is very tough to be a
novice rifleman, because as you have mentioned you suffer
from extremely slow rate of fire. so you have to make up
for it by using the other shots available to you, not just
spamming headshots to clumps of squills. use the warning shot i think, i forget what its called but it drives them
away for a lil while.
im not master yet but im doing pretty well already, get to countersniping III early to get flushing shot 2, and mind shot2 and headshot3 are also helpful
xPREDATORx
Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:31 pm
#6
useless? useless? i can solo krayts,kill rancors before they can even think of coming after me no no no my friend rifles arnt useless u had too much of that new mandolorian brandy!!!
la1fan
Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:43 pm
#7
"wow, you're a dumbass. you just called arguably the best profession in the game useless. congrats."
/agree
Naktu
Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:51 pm
#8
<<wow, you're a dumbass. you just called arguably the best profession in the game useless. congrats.>>
wow, you're a fuxcking jackass. not only do you lack speech comprehension, you also just wasted a portion of yours and our lives. congrats. hoser.
<<use the warning shot i think, i forget what its called but it drives them
away for a lil while. >>
away for a lil while. >>
that's a pistol ability, and now with the weapon change delay, its useless.
<<useless? useless? i can solo krayts>>
i find it hard to believe you can solo krayts since this publish went live. they have what 350K HAM and do 600dmg a hit to 90% kinetic composite now...? and even if you can, that's only with the help of CM, right?
deviousanarchy
Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:53 pm
#9
You can solo krayts, just takes forever. Plus if the boredom doesn't sit then the noobs will get it 
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Ackehece
Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:26 pm
#10
no need for names
Rifle is by far the best ranged profession in the game right now
at master we are as fast or faster then any ranged combat profession even with slow weapons
when you are leveling you should use a Laser Rifle - less ham cost and faster rate of fire... once master t-21 is your friend
Threaten and warning shot are your friend as well. they are in the combat xp coloumn of marksmen - if you use them effectively (onyl try on low level content) you will never let them get close to you if they charge.
next always use aim if you use conceal shot (slowest shot in game... what is an extra sec) conceal shot should be reserved for content you can not kill in 3 or less shots. area shots are a priority for a new rifleman so 00(3)0 or 000(3) )if you have the combat xp - area shots allow you to do quenker missions and gain xp at a pheomenal rate.... just area attack the lair ... quenkers run into you cone of fire... and you kill them as they charge you.
speed and area of effect = superior pve
speed + head shot + stun = superior pvp
the above is true once you are master
at a learner level
lower ham +faster weapon + tactics = you live and level fast
just remember conceal shot is not a panacea and nor is headshot 3 - all rifle shots should be used while leveling... if you are a master marksmen and don't mind burning out t21's try overcharge 2.... the insta kill shot for many creatures (IF YOU DO THIS... EXPECT TO REPLACE A T21 A DAY)
supression fire in marksmen is also a good skill.. is the onyl shot open to rifleman that forces a posture down change
Soloing krayts is easy as a master rifleman... no need for combat medic or doc even (though scout terrain 4 helps) this I am sure will change with the combat revamp but currently we are one of three professions that can solo krayts effectively. 350k ham 90%energy resist heavy armor= approx 850 shots = you better have a good mind buff but since you can shot somewhat more then once every two secs... = about 29 mins of blasting.... (more like 18-20 mins is my average on a greater)
Message Edited by Ackehece on 07-03-2004 12:31 AM
valetman
Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:48 am
#11
Naktu wrote:
that's a pistol ability, and now with the weapon change delay, its useless.
i find it hard to believe you can solo krayts since this publish went live. they have what 350K HAM and do 600dmg a hit to 90% kinetic composite now...? and even if you can, that's only with the help of CM, right?
Well, In my Galaxy Krayts had ham upped to 350k on the creature revamp, which was, I beleive, publish 6(May have been 5, I cant remember now), so Im not too sure what you are talking about there.
Warning shot is not a pistol ability, it is a marksman ability usable with any ranged weapon.It forces mobs to retreat from you if they are charging.
Soloing Krayt as master rifleman is fairly easy, if time consuming, without CM or any other professions really.
It is also , in my opinion, wrong to be able to solo krayts, but that is a matter for another discussion.
It would seem your frustrations of rifleman would come from a lack of tactics when facing mobs, and the percieved reputation of rifles as the 'I win' button in this game.
It takes effort to be good with a rifle , at least before master, tactics, weapon choice and target choice are all vital when levelling.(It was even more so in the days of the 2.5 melee modifiers)
Speed sliced rifles are what you need to level, always speed sliced.
If you are having trouble with mobs, try getting yourself a combat droid with 5 self repair modules and use it to tank for you, that may help no end.
But, if it is the 'I win' button you seek, then even at master, without some intelligence in your tactics, you will be sorely dissapointed.
Message Edited by valetman on 07-03-2004 09:50 AM
Naktu
Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:25 am
#12
<< above are posts by people who HAVE soloed krayts, while all
you can reply with is "i've never heard of blah blah">>
you need to calm yourself man. don't get all hot and bothered. what i said was from what i've heard, krayt's are a lot harder now, as of three days ago. it doesn't matter if you soloed them before tuesday, i *hear* it's much more difficult since the patch. i never claimed this as fact.
you can reply with is "i've never heard of blah blah">>
you need to calm yourself man. don't get all hot and bothered. what i said was from what i've heard, krayt's are a lot harder now, as of three days ago. it doesn't matter if you soloed them before tuesday, i *hear* it's much more difficult since the patch. i never claimed this as fact.
Naktu
Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:27 am
#13
<< BTW, warning shot is ranged support 4, the 4th tree in marksman, not pistols>>
yes, it's in marksman, but you can only use it with a pistol. i've tried using it with various carbines and rifles and get a "this attack can't be performed with this weapon" message, so in essence, it's a pistol ability.
yes, it's in marksman, but you can only use it with a pistol. i've tried using it with various carbines and rifles and get a "this attack can't be performed with this weapon" message, so in essence, it's a pistol ability.
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