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Thread: Master Rifleman vs. 4/0/0/4

Teemo
Thu Oct 16, 2003 3:13 pm
#1

Is there a huge difference between Master Rifleman and Rifleman who just Master the outer branches of the tree? I'm at 4/0/0/4 right now, and I can shoot faster than my mind can keep up. I know Strafe Shot 2 is supposed to be very powerful, but I prefer sticking with doing damage to mind only.
Gazkan
Thu Oct 16, 2003 3:35 pm
#2

There is a massive difference between 4/0/0/4 and master rifleman..you will shoot specials at least3 times faster and with greater accuracy.. if you're looking to dabble and save skill points I'd suggest going pistoleer... rifle is nota profession you want to be in unless you are going to master because of the tremendous speed difference between masters and non-masters. Strafe Shot2 is not only an extremely powerful attack, but as a master you can shoot it with a delay of 1-2 seconds even with the slowest of rifles... most specials fire every second at master, and will take 3x longer to fire at 4/0/0/4.. you literally triple your dps from specials including the headshots and mindshots.
Seflyn
Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:10 pm
#3

Agreed with the above poster. The only non master rifle spec I would consider doing is 4/0/0/0 for the ranged deathblow and mind bleed.



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HARP00N
Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:47 pm
#4

I think its retarded how we get all these disadvantages (crap accuracy, crap firing speed, 2.5x melee damage, very high costs, slow xp, group unfreindly) just becuase we can hit an unhealable pool (this is what Holo said, that our advantage is that we hit an unhealable pool) but our best attack is strafeshot2 which is a random pool attack (health gets hit most often).

CosmicFungus
Thu Oct 16, 2003 10:24 pm
#5

im a 4/0/0/4 rifleman and i already waste to much mind to attack mind, so going mater woud be pointless the best way to shoot pvp is double mind bleeds and headshot 1, allows more mind dmg with less mind dmg to you, im also a 0/4/4/4 pistoleer so i can jack up any master rifleman on the server, because i can mindbleed at his range then switch to pistol and bleed him with that and lay on fanshot, so usually i get health or mind down before he gets one of mine because rifleman skills use mind to start with which blows



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Gazkan
Fri Oct 17, 2003 1:11 am
#6

Saying that there's no point in master rifleman because of mind costs is quite honestly the dumbest thing i've read on the boards... food, spice... it is possible to counter the mind costs and getmind costs belowzero, you could probably get them below zero if you slap some entertainer buffs on top of food. I guess though that more than tripling your dps isn't worth it.
Gazkan
Fri Oct 17, 2003 1:16 am
#7

not to mention at 4/0/0/4 you miss out on the best rifleman attacks.. the AEs.
Bennyboy4308
Fri Oct 17, 2003 4:57 am
#8






Gazkan wrote:
not to mention at 4/0/0/4 you miss out on the best rifleman attacks.. the AEs.




Isn't Flurry 2 on the 4th line?



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Pire
Fri Oct 17, 2003 6:14 am
#9

it will suck, you will skip all he best stuff that rifleman has to offer.


SocialConformer
Fri Oct 17, 2003 6:23 am
#10






Bennyboy4308 wrote:





Gazkan wrote:
not to mention at 4/0/0/4 you miss out on the best rifleman attacks.. the AEs.




Isn't Flurry 2 on the 4th line?




Yes, it's in Rifle Special Abilities III




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Pwa
Fri Oct 17, 2003 6:30 am
#11

Flurry 2 is on the 4th line, but it does has the lowest damage multiplier of the AoEs.
Manterion
Fri Oct 17, 2003 7:08 am
#12


I'm in the same boat as you Teemo, my final character will have 4 0 0 4. Although there is a big difference between 4 0 0 4 and master.. If you plan to mostly PVP, you would be at a good advantage going for master. I really, really want to go master, but I don't have the points. I would have to give up pistol, warning shot, and medic skills . Or I would have to give up Master Ranger I justcan't dothat.




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Fred_Skinner
Fri Oct 17, 2003 7:56 am
#13

I gave up medic. I'm not willing to give up the sword tho. I'm going to see if 3/0/3/3 or 2/1/2/3 will work for PvE (that is all I do currently). If they come up with a way to let us shoot socials w/o being pounded AND fix the d&mn warping I would go master. OR if they give me 30 more skill points.


I need better pets before I do thattho, but I'd rather it not be the ones everyone gets.




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