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Thread: I am Confused.. Why the Rifleman calls for Pistoleer changes?

DisplacedSurfeR
Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:37 pm
#1

I for one have been not 100% behind rifleman except that I always back Riflemans calls for Accuracy Fixed. I have several Master Rifleman in my guild and when i ask them of their problems they deny half the stuff said on this forum. (as half stuff said on pistol and carbine forums is BS)


1) leave pistol alone your Rifleman, Nerfing another class thinking that makes you better is rather selfish, Hell pistol sucks balls why on earth do you want to make it worse! i wish i was BH/CARBINE now. or hell id be Master Rifleman if it wasnt so hardto level .


2) Ask me to back you anytime you want accuracy increased I agree 100% and so do rifleman in my guild


3) DID your correspondant just say dont change cap change accuracy? oh great not only can Rifle shoot as fast as me but now you want me to be as crappy in accuracy as rifles? so in essence misery loves company? correct me if i misunderstood him..





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Raloorn
Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:53 pm
#2

Because they shoot faster then as as the same Range as us with as good if not better accuracy then us.


You don't see a problem with that?




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DisplacedSurfeR
Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:54 pm
#3

I for one cannot hit anything with DX2 at 60 meters....



Second WHY DONT YOU GET YOUR ACCURACY FIXED QUIT BEING SO VINDICTIVE.




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Lurko
Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:58 pm
#4

actually no what we would like is that pistols are not as good as rifles are at long range. in tests the best pistol vs the best rifle at the RIFLES ideal range had the same chance to hit. we think this diminishes out class. and feel that a pistol should be have the same chance to hit at our ideal range as we have at your ideal range.



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DisplacedSurfeR
Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:00 pm
#5

sounds good to me, then with range fixed Speed and damage changes will come into play



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DisplacedSurfeR
Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:02 pm
#6

And again DX2 cannot hit crap at range.. and that pistol is gimped on most servers (like T21 cant be crafted)


and its our only viable Armor piercing gun.


For wanting balance you guys sure do seem to want pistol to suck more than it already does


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Get your class brought into balance.. Dont balance the game by changing others in which 3/4 seem to know nothing about




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Raloorn
Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:07 pm
#7






DisplacedSurfeR wrote:

And again DX2 cannot hit crap at range.. and that pistol is gimped on most servers (like T21 cant be crafted)


and its our only viable Armor piercing gun.


For wanting balance you guys sure do seem to want pistol to suck more than it already does


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Get your class brought into balance.. Dont balance the game by changing others in which 3/4 seem to know nothing about





So now you want a good Armor piercing guns too? and you say riflemen are asking a lot? sheez why dont we give pistoleers the ability to attack the mind and our great crawl speed and just get rid of the Rifleman class.



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DisplacedSurfeR
Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:09 pm
#8

I never said I WANTED a new AR gun.. I said its our only viable..



your own jealousy has clouded your vision.




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BaronJedi
Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:09 pm
#9

Problem is you can increase my accuracy as a Rifleman all you want but it does not change the fact that a Pistoleer is still hitting me on my turf. That is why sometimes nerfs are needed. At some point you can't justcontinue adding on stuff to professions. Sometimes you gotta take things away from others.




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DisplacedSurfeR
Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:12 pm
#10

WHY not add to Rifleman?


See what i mean?


I AM WILLING TO ADD TO RIFLEMAN


all you guys want to do is take away from another class


Please someone who isnt a l33t dud3 with jealous class envy tendencies post in this thread




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Raloorn
Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:17 pm
#11






DisplacedSurfeR wrote:

WHY not add to Rifleman?


See what i mean?


I AM WILLING TO ADD TO RIFLEMAN


all you guys want to do is take away from another class


Please someone who isnt a l33t dud3 with jealous class envy tendencies post in this thread







sure add to rifleman, Rifleman should be able to shoot from 100m while the rest shoot at the normal 64m. But wait then the devs would come and tell us that any range above 64m is nearly impossible. so therefore we have to scale the other way since 64m is the max range and we can't move range farther whats the logical conclusion? make the other weapons ranges shorter.


So technically what you are taking as a nerf is an addition to the rifleman.




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DisplacedSurfeR
Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:20 pm
#12

umm.. or increase there accuracy? lol


you already mis-read one post.. put words in my mouth.. now just keep assuming things just so you can try to insult your way out of an argument..


Straw-man tactics will not get you anywhere.




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Philosopher1976
Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:21 pm
#13

The reason I'm against making weapon ranges shorter is because then you'll be able to kite all the other classes.


If the issue is that rifles are inaccurate, then ask for more accuracy. If they're weak, ask for them to be more powerful.


I don't think a range cap or superlong 100m range makes any sense because of the kiting issue. When there are so many other problems with riflemen (HAM costs, 2.5 melee, etc) there is no reason to ask to kite other professions instead of focusing on that stuff.






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