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Thread: Problem with Conceal Shot

Mot-Irujam
Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:49 pm
#1

Heyas. I'm 4-1-1-3 in rifleman going for master and I use (Or try to use ) conceal shot a lot to grind through the XP by going after big game like Faamba and Bolle's on Naboo. The problems I'm having are 2 fold.
1) My damage is spread evenly among ALL the stats. Even mind. So on a critter with 3K ham a stat, I usually wind up doing about 7300 damage to kill it.
2)I have a +95 to conceal. Yet I ALWAYS get detected within 5 shots. Always. Then Get attacked. Then I have to fall back to my other profession (Commando) to save my butt from being chewed up.

If anyone can give me some help, I'd appreciate it. I'm still learning about Rifleman, and any pointers or tips would be greatly appreciated.

BTW, I'm noticing a lot of people unhappy about Publish 8. But I cant seem to find out why. Whats up with Publish 8? Are they re-nerfing rifles?



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DDfan
Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:06 pm
#2

Bleeds will cause the agro. Also don't let them wander too close. I find at 45m or so more agressive animals will detect you. Don't let the chance to hit get too low either. I use different rifles to keep the to hit ratio high.


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CapnKill
Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:22 pm
#3

1. Get to x x 3 x quicker!!... you're all over the place.. x x 3 x is your goal.. once you get that, life is easier.


2.Make sure you stay in a range where your rifle has a +50 to hit...


3. The damage being spread out is a draw back to conceal shot.. this is why I don't use the shot... it's very very very boring!!!.. You got enough speed now.. just buff and use HS3, you should be much quicker in getting xp that way... and head for x x 3 x... did I mention that already?



doltec
Sat Feb 21, 2004 1:00 am
#4

One of two things are happening. 1. Your wounding the animal and thus causing it to bleed, check the wound chance on your rifle and choose one with less chances to wound.


2. People have mentioned this before that there is a slight bleed effect. I dont know the truth of this but i have had animals aggro me while using conceal and having stopped to rest my mind.




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jedichuck
Sat Feb 21, 2004 1:04 am
#5

The ONLY time any creature would aggro me when using /concealshot is if I missed it twice before killing it. If you make a macro to /aim before /concealshot then you might avoid the aggro.




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EKIMMIT
Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:52 am
#6

alot of people say that getting flushing shot 2 is awesome, but the problem is is that it take forever to get flushing shot 2 if you'rea new rifleman. Also, i've missed a creature like 5 times in a row and it still has detected me. I think sometimes it just doesn't work, no matter what your skills are.
zonkrd
Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:47 am
#7

One thing that may help you is to be in the /prone position while using conceal shot. I will sometimes even use HS3 with a speed sliced laser rifle to kill savage quenkers while prone and before they aggro (usually get 4 shots in before aggro) but do this only if the mob is alone, as when one aggros, so does his buddy.



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Mot-Irujam
Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:59 am
#8

Ive tried hunting aggro stuff on advanced planets. The moment I get in rifle range, they attack me. Mask fails, and bam, I got nasty critters chewing on my head. Also, heres a new trick Ive noticed animals have. They focus on one stat! Usually the weakest! I'll prone, conceal shoot a bolle a few times, then it will inevitably aggro (Along with the rest of the nest) and they all come over, and as one, Hit me in ONE STAT and incap me in one hit. or if theres only one bolle, it will just hit me in that one stat repeatedly. I'm close to giving up on rifle. My specials dont work, the leveling is nearly impossible because of this, and my bonuses from skill advancement mean diddly squat. I'm just as bad a rifleman now as I was at novice. I hit just as often, and in PvP my damage is half that of other riflemen. I HS3 someone, and I do minimum damage every time, and thats on the rare occasion I actually hit. I've submitted half a dozen various bug reports about the various bugs Ive had with rifleman, but, like happened with commando and the bugs I had with that, none are being addressed.



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AidanM
Sat May 14, 2005 4:29 pm
#9

i been trying to use this shot and it just wont work i do /cover then /concealshot and it says Wrong State am i missing something? any ideas? let me know tx







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Ackehece
Sat May 14, 2005 5:13 pm
#10






AidanM wrote:

i been trying to use this shot and it just wont work i do /cover then /concealshot and it says Wrong State am i missing something? any ideas? let me know tx





it is best to do a forum search and maybe check the top ten threads in a forum and read the stickies first ^_^ this is addressed in all of these. Conceal and cover are bugged ^_^. (check tthe bug thread first when you have troubles with something - if it is new I need to know about it - if it is old you need to know about it!)



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nillapepsi
Mon May 16, 2005 10:38 am
#11

You have to be prone to use cover and concealshot:

/prone /cover /concealshot

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Kallace
Tue May 17, 2005 12:15 am
#12

Are you in a group. Conceal shot does not work in groups. Don't ask me why (ok go on, it'll be hilarious) cos i dont know, it just doesnt. Also, doesnt work if anything friendly is close enuff to see you. hope this helps.


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Ackehece
Tue May 17, 2005 7:51 am
#13






CiiNekto wrote:





Kallace wrote:

Are you in a group. Conceal shot does not work in groups. Don't ask me why (ok go on, it'll be hilarious) cos i dont know, it just doesnt. Also, doesnt work if anything friendly is close enuff to see you. hope this helps.


Kallace







This is false. I group all the time and cover snipe, you must put some space (im guessing at least 20m) between you and your groupmates though, as well as npcs and such.





this is correct - it will work at range even when grouped


though the skill is still bugged (or maybe flawed is a better word for it...)





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