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Thread: ummmmmmm

Mykk
Sun Oct 05, 2003 1:34 pm
#1

T21 w/Stock 7.9 159-376 -70/+20/+10 70/63/101 70K


Laser Rifle 5.8 43-401 -86/+46/-50 13/22/59 25K



whydoes everyone say t21 is the best?



oh and is rifle man any good at all? im sick of being a bounty hunter because everyone is one




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Mykk
Sun Oct 05, 2003 1:46 pm
#2

can anyone tell me some good things about rifleman? all i know is rfles have alot of mind cost for specials




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SocialConformer
Sun Oct 05, 2003 2:00 pm
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Mykk wrote:

T21 w/Stock 7.9 159-376 -70/+20/+10 70/63/101 70K


Laser Rifle 5.8 43-401 -86/+46/-50 13/22/59 25K



whydoes everyone say t21 is the best?



oh and is rifle man any good at all? im sick of being a bounty hunter because everyone is one







First, the minimum damage on the T21 is more than 3 times the minimum damage on the laser rifle your are showing. Trust me, if you start playing with rifles, you will hate those 150 damage headshots. That sort of thing gets a person killed.


Second, the T21 has Heavy AP which will do ~195% damage versus an unarmored target, where the laser rifle has Meduim AP which will do ~156% damage versus an unarmored target. With that, the effective damagesare:



Laser rifle: 43-401 --> AR0: 67-627 --> AR1: 54-501 --> AR2: 43-401 --> AR3: 21-200


T21 rifle:159-376--> AR0: 310-734--> AR1: 248-588 --> AR2: 198-470 --> AR3: 159-376




Get it now?


Not many people use the T21 as a main weapon though, just when you really need a quality hit -like a bleed.


Any good rifleman will carry an assortment of rifles to use based on the situation. When we finally are able to make T21s on my server, I plan to keep my laser and E11 rifles, but I also want to have a coupleT21s (pre-slice) special made, one made for very low HAM costs with accuracy +mods andone built for damage. I'm sure I'm dreaming though.


The cost of the weapon derives from the difficulty to make them, which I believe is "under investigation."





Denzien, Bria server
Artisan 3/0/0/4 Scout 4/0/4/2
Brawler 4/0/0/0 Smuggler 1/0/1/0
Marksman 4/4/0/4 Rifleman 4/1/3/3

SocialConformer
Sun Oct 05, 2003 2:02 pm
#4

Oh, and keep in mind that those damage numbers are not including power-ups, slices and multipliers for specials.




Denzien, Bria server
Artisan 3/0/0/4 Scout 4/0/4/2
Brawler 4/0/0/0 Smuggler 1/0/1/0
Marksman 4/4/0/4 Rifleman 4/1/3/3

Mykk
Sun Oct 05, 2003 2:07 pm
#5

are riflemans any good in pvp




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Seflyn
Sun Oct 05, 2003 10:20 pm
#6






Mykk wrote:

T21 w/Stock 7.9 159-376 -70/+20/+10 70/63/101 70K


Laser Rifle 5.8 43-401 -86/+46/-50 13/22/59 25K




Great if you're on spices / food, if you're not that HAM cost is going to kill you fast.



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Grrowl
Sun Oct 05, 2003 10:26 pm
#7

T11 is good for non special moves. After that, you kill yourself faster then you kill the mob/player.


Bleed shots do not take into account AP.


I personally use my laser for bleeds and t11 for normal shots. Well, i did until my t11 blew up.

AlmiBoawou
Sun Oct 05, 2003 10:53 pm
#8

Riflemen used to be good in PvP. I could do pretty well with my T21 and hs2 or strafe2, but now I can barely land any shots, and my mind is gone in 2 seconds, so we suck now. We're good at PvE though.
SocialConformer
Mon Oct 06, 2003 8:48 am
#9

Bria just got T21s, and the smith that made mine made them to reduce the HAM costs(I picked up 4 - priced at 12k, who could resist? I probably should have gotten the last 3, too....I need to get a GOOD damage slice)


Stats are 116-320 damage, 26.8% wound chance, -70/0/+10 range, 37/32/68 HAM


I have sent the smith an Email to get a special order for a few very high damage T21s for me toshoot bleeds with.


Maybe you should petition a weaponsmith to make a low-HAM T21, and see how it works out for you.





Denzien, Bria server
Artisan 3/0/0/4 Scout 4/0/4/2
Brawler 4/0/0/0 Smuggler 1/0/1/0
Marksman 4/4/0/4 Rifleman 4/1/3/3

AldeonAvardulin
Mon Oct 06, 2003 8:51 am
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Mykk wrote:

T21 w/Stock 7.9 159-376 -70/+20/+10 70/63/101 70K


Laser Rifle 5.8 43-401 -86/+46/-50 13/22/59 25K








That laser rifle have a stock? Doesnt seem like it, add a stock to that now.


But yes, Rifleman are awsome in PvP. I solo AH all the time its fun, I always have a 10-1, or 20-1 kill to death ratio.Sniper Shot helps alotfor me,And Strafe Shot 2 is just amazing if youdo it Right.




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ArianSix
Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:50 am
#11

Hehe, I like AH. One of my favorite things to do is sneak in there, snipe a few people until I have no ham, then burst run the heck away!


That's where I like to go when I'm having a bad day... always left (usually in a body bag) with more FP than I came in with.


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Mykk
Mon Oct 06, 2003 3:09 pm
#12

whats strafe shot do





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RebRifle
Mon Oct 06, 2003 4:42 pm
#13

sorry to tell ya guys but armor piercing does not increase damage. it just lowers the affectiveness of armor.
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