Rifleman Archive
Thread: Rifleman is just fine.
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yourshepherd
Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:12 pm
#1
There's absolutely no reason that rifleman should be changed in anyway. It's perfect. Infact, 95% of TC2 has chosen rifleman as part of their template.
Since we all know it's perfectly balanced, I wonder why so many people chose to take up rifleman.
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REZ, REPEAT.
XaverriJade7
Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:24 pm
#2
Cause too many other professions are broken. Don't tell me you aren't able to do just fine by yourself with Doc/TKM? 
KardenTyrell
Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:24 pm
#3
yourshepherd wrote:There's absolutely no reason that rifleman should be changed in anyway. It's perfect. Infact, 95% of TC2 has chosen rifleman as part of their template.Since we all know it's perfectly balanced, I wonder why so many people chose to take up rifleman.
May I comment on this by saying....
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ToughGy
Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:28 pm
#5
just wanted to say that rifle IS overpowered... hense the reason i chose it as my profession.
I mean i can go to the krayt graveyard with my 33% damage sliced disruptor and a crate of 31% damage Pups and spam advanced strafe and kill steal a krayt from any size group. I dont' do this because i don't like to bring a bad name down on my guild but it is technically possiable. we have tested it and it has happened to us from other riflemen.
I mean i can go to the krayt graveyard with my 33% damage sliced disruptor and a crate of 31% damage Pups and spam advanced strafe and kill steal a krayt from any size group. I dont' do this because i don't like to bring a bad name down on my guild but it is technically possiable. we have tested it and it has happened to us from other riflemen.
yourshepherd
Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:31 pm
#6
XaverriJade7 wrote:
Cause too many other professions are broken. Don't tell me you aren't able to do just fine by yourself with Doc/TKM?
What good is doc when you don't hit anything other than the mind pool?
Kachada
Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:46 pm
#7
Again...
Rifles are dominant for 2 reasons...
We can do good stun damage (bypass 80% armor)
We can hit mindpool (bypass +2700 health/action buffs)
Is it rifles that need nerfing? or these other features which have driven so many to the rifle? Likely both, but do not forget all the reasons why people choose Rifles.
Rifles are dominant for 2 reasons...
We can do good stun damage (bypass 80% armor)
We can hit mindpool (bypass +2700 health/action buffs)
Is it rifles that need nerfing? or these other features which have driven so many to the rifle? Likely both, but do not forget all the reasons why people choose Rifles.
XaverriJade7
Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:52 pm
#8
yourshepherd wrote:
XaverriJade7 wrote:
Cause too many other professions are broken. Don't tell me you aren't able to do just fine by yourself with Doc/TKM?
What good is doc when you don't hit anything other than the mind pool?
TKAs can't hit Mind can they?
KnightHawk420
Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:04 pm
#9
Kachada wrote:
Again...
Rifles are dominant for 2 reasons...
We can do good stun damage (bypass 80% armor)
We can hit mindpool (bypass +2700 health/action buffs)
Is it rifles that need nerfing? or these other features which have driven so many to the rifle? Likely both, but do not forget all the reasons why people choose Rifles.
Don't forget at master it also has the highest dmg outpost by far of all the ranged professions due to the shear speed.
LiakyK
Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:05 pm
#10
XaverriJade7 wrote:
yourshepherd wrote:
XaverriJade7 wrote:Cause too many other professions are broken. Don't tell me you aren't able to do just fine by yourself with Doc/TKM?
What good is doc when you don't hit anything other than the mind pool?TKAs can't hit Mind can they?
TKAs can hit mind.
LiakyK
Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:06 pm
#11
KnightHawk420 wrote:
Kachada wrote:
Again...
Rifles are dominant for 2 reasons...
We can do good stun damage (bypass 80% armor)
We can hit mindpool (bypass +2700 health/action buffs)
Is it rifles that need nerfing? or these other features which have driven so many to the rifle? Likely both, but do not forget all the reasons why people choose Rifles.
Don't forget at master it also has the highest dmg outpost by far of all the ranged professions due to the shear speed.
High DPS is what rifle is for. Do you want every profession to be the same?
Kachada
Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:23 pm
#12
KnightHawk420 wroteon't forget at master it also has the highest dmg outpost by far of all the ranged professions due to the shear speed.
True. But as they say. that Damage per second ain't everything.
Waste93 put up a good comparison of the three ranged professions.
Rifles: Hi Damage, Medium States (dizzy/stun), Low defense.
Carbines: Hi States, Medium Damage, Low defense
Pistols: Hi Defense, Medium States, Low Damage.
Besides the doctor buffs&armor which have shifted the entire game to Stun damage calsses (BH pistols, Fencer, Rifleman) and DoT wielders (Combat Medics, Pikeman)
You also have the problem that Carbineer and Pistoleer are rife with things that have been broken since launch. Pistol's specials. Carbineer's HAM costs. If the other ranged professions were fixed, doc buffs & armor balanced, you'd see a whole different game. And more ranged classes.
Of course it would be easier just to nerf Rifleman in to crap, rather than bring all the professions in line with one another. /shrug
XaverriJade7
Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:58 pm
#13
LiakyK wrote:
XaverriJade7 wrote:
yourshepherd wrote:
XaverriJade7 wrote:
Cause too many other professions are broken. Don't tell me you aren't able to do just fine by yourself with Doc/TKM?
What good is doc when you don't hit anything other than the mind pool?
TKAs can't hit Mind can they?
TKAs can hit mind.
That was my point 
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