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Thread: Another useless rifle! /jumpforjoy

JediGohan
Thu Apr 01, 2004 5:40 pm
#1

Well we got the DXR-6- And though while I do admit it can be ok if made right, it only looks cool.


Then that rifle that was obv. made by a really lazy person- basically gave it a tusken rifle template and renamed it- and i still dont know if it's either kinetic or energy but the damage is horrible. oh yeah it's almost impossible to get since you have to kill a 300k HAM Tusken Observor that rarely spawns.



NOW we get the Berserker Rifle- oooh- another low dmg gun that has no AP whatsoever- does heat damage- and hopefully is a little easier to get.



Someone said that the devs were just "pampering" us with these new rifles because a HUGE /nerf is coming our way.


IF we are getting nerfed I dont know about you but these new rifles do not cut it for me. What do you fellow Riflemen think?




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MoridinTheSick
Thu Apr 01, 2004 5:41 pm
#2

more pretty things for the wall is all
JediGohan
Thu Apr 01, 2004 5:47 pm
#3

I'm suspecting some pistoleer, carbineer, or commando one starred me because we have useless newguns?




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Onichi
Thu Apr 01, 2004 5:57 pm
#4

I actually quite like the DXR6-B, I have a couple.. one I had made just for the sake of it and another Krayt version.. I haven't been playing as much I'd like to lately and need to get them both Sliced ( Prays for Damage Slices ). They are a decent and useful weapon..


The Lithanium Rifle I may get my hands on for just collectors value.. There's no point in using it for combat, you might as well use a Cheap Tusken Rifle instead.


As far as the Berserker Rifle goes, I'll definitely get at least one made up for myself.. Another Damage type in my Toolbar cant be a bad thing.. but yeah, its probably going to be about as effective as the SG82 is.. which isn't all that useful..





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MrFunSocks
Thu Apr 01, 2004 6:11 pm
#5

Wait, so, one of the major rifleman complains, that we have few damage types, is being nullified by adding 3 new damage types in the last month or two, but the rifles are useless? Are you aware that MOST classes only have 2-3 viable weapons (if that) and the rest are just for damage variety on those few times they need it?



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JediGohan
Thu Apr 01, 2004 6:14 pm
#6






MrFunSocks wrote:
Wait, so, one of the major rifleman complains, that we have few damage types, is being nullified by adding 3 new damage types in the last month or two, but the rifles are useless? Are you aware that MOST classes only have 2-3 viable weapons (if that) and the rest are just for damage variety on those few times they need it?







Rifleman's only viable weapons


T21


Jawa Rifle


Laser Rifle


That's it. Devs need to start making useable weapons, otherwise it's just a waste of space.





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KawikaMacGuyver
Thu Apr 01, 2004 6:23 pm
#7






JediGohan wrote:

I'm suspecting some pistoleer, carbineer, or commando one starred me because we have useless newguns?







I'm an ex pistoleer and ex carbineer and am just passing through as a rifleman (but may want to revisit again later).I can tell you that the disruptor rifle is not useless. The disruptor does acid damage, which a lot of mobs are vulnerable or have low resists to. Off the shelf both the T21 and the Disruptor are comparable. The T21 has a slight edge in damage whereas the Disruptor has an edge in speed. A T21 is heavy AP vs the disruptor's Medium AP. One of the things i learned as a pistoleer is to look at the resistances of mobs.Take a Rhoa Kwi Packleader, which has light armor, 65% energy resist, and 0% (not vulnerable) for acid. Which you think is more efficient? The T21 or the Disruptor?


I've seen screeners of theLithanium Rifle. It's got decent speed and good max damage. Now i dont know about you, but i think this kinetic damage weapon would be handy againstsome Nighsisters....unless you enjoy seeing no numbers float above their heads when you use your T21.


If certain rifles did the damage type that they used to (spraystick used to do acid, and tusken rifles used to do kinetic), then i can see how these weapons may have a bit less significance. But right now, i think these rifles are far from useless.




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Onichi
Thu Apr 01, 2004 6:27 pm
#8

Unfortunately the Lithanium Rifle was changed from Kinetic to Energy Damage recently .. Otherwise it would have been a useful addition to our arsenal.



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Imperial Leiutenant

Official Rifleman's Motto: Of all the things i've lost, I miss my mind the most.
"If you can see it without a scope, it aint Sniping"
KawikaMacGuyver
Thu Apr 01, 2004 6:31 pm
#9






Onichi wrote:
Unfortunately the Lithanium Rifle was changed from Kinetic to Energy Damage recently .. Otherwise it would have been a useful addition to our arsenal.







What the ?!?!?!


Geez...


Ok. You're right then...that one would just be a display gun....though i still want one (for display )




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Yrai
Thu Apr 01, 2004 6:52 pm
#10






JediGohan wrote:

Well we got the DXR-6- And though while I do admit it can be ok if made right, it only looks cool.


Then that rifle that was obv. made by a really lazy person- basically gave it a tusken rifle template and renamed it- and i still dont know if it's either kinetic or energy but the damage is horrible. oh yeah it's almost impossible to get since you have to kill a 300k HAM Tusken Observor that rarely spawns.





I don't think that having a rifle that does acid is something to be complaining about. I'd go so far as to say that it is on the level as the Jawa rifle. just have to look for the right uses for the weapon.




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JediGohan
Thu Apr 01, 2004 6:56 pm
#11

DXR-6 is only good in PvE, only in some instances have I attempted to use it for PvP mostly only for laughs and for show when someone comes up to me and says "Woah man what gun is that?"


so I show them



It's also only good for levelling and that's about it.




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MrFunSocks
Thu Apr 01, 2004 7:48 pm
#12






JediGohan wrote:





MrFunSocks wrote:
Wait, so, one of the major rifleman complains, that we have few damage types, is being nullified by adding 3 new damage types in the last month or two, but the rifles are useless? Are you aware that MOST classes only have 2-3 viable weapons (if that) and the rest are just for damage variety on those few times they need it?







Rifleman's only viable weapons


T21


Jawa Rifle


Laser Rifle


That's it. Devs need to start making useable weapons, otherwise it's just a waste of space.







Pistoleer's only viable weapons in PvP:


Geonosian (and tangle, kinda), Repub


Carbineer's:


Elite, and... uhh... well, nothing.


BH:


Scatter & Tangle, Laser carb, LLC


Only the stun baton out of all the melee weapons is anything to write home about in PvP, other than that they're all kinetic (unless there's 1 or 2 I'm missing).


Composite is the norm for PvP, it protects against everything but stun. The only categories in weapons for PvP are: Protected vs composite, or stun. Everything else is mute.





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PsychoticChipmunk
Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:04 pm
#13







KawikaMacGuyver wrote:


Off the shelf both the T21 and the Disruptor are comparable. The T21 has a slight edge in damage whereas the Disruptor has an edge in speed. A T21 is heavy AP vs the disruptor's Medium AP. One of the things i learned as a pistoleer is to look at the resistances of mobs.Take a Rhoa Kwi Packleader, which has light armor, 65% energy resist, and 0% (not vulnerable) for acid. Which you think is more efficient? The T21 or the Disruptor?





Well if armor piercing was working right the T-21 would be better. However it isn't so odds are it would be a draw or more likely the Disrupter.


And actually our useful guns aren't



  1. T-21

  2. laser

  3. jawa

It's



  1. T-21/laser

  2. Jawa

people either use the T-21 or the laser rifle due to personal preference and honestly I think just about everyone uses the T-21. It is basically the constant heavy hitter where the laser is therandom heavy hitter. They are both essentially as useful as the other, although the T-21 has the upper hand in my book, and both do essentially the same thing.




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