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Thread: Even more Pist off rifleman
In the Kauri Server, I kinda think that I am the most invincible Imperial in the game, owning Anchorhead by myself for 6 hours was great and the only thing I used was my T21 Rifle and CDEF Rifle. Well finally I got taken down by a bunch of rancors so I clone in Anchorhead and move inside the cantina. I am just sitting there you know, when this Master Gunfighter shouts out that she/he wanted to duel. So of course being the cocky shot soldier I am tell her that I would duel. So I tell her that she could start at 20 meters away from to give her a fighting chance.(By the way she was wearing full composite)
So I set up myself and put my T21 on and get ready for her to accept. She accepts, first Strafe Shot went off hits her for half of her health HAM. She used Panic Shot on me to delay me then hits Last ditch.. 1256 points of damage to my head with a FWGS. Then I was holy **edit** how the hell did you hit me for that much.. She tells me that she got an FWGS that has a max damage of 589 without a powerup.
So I was like round 2 lets do this. This time I am using my pre nerf T21 with 889 max damage to it and I tell her to stand 20 meters away from me again. BAM I am on the ground, she hit me for 1892 with Last Ditch, now by this time I was totally pist so I tell her to move back to 40 meters.
I put on my full advanced composite armor with 80% resistance to everything and light armor rating. Again this time I hit Strafe 2 I missed and she **edit** me with Last Ditch for 1678 without my armor absorbing any of the hits. I was totally pist at this why the hell can she hit me so hard with a pistol. I finally tell her let me get to my optimum range of 64 meters and she did that.
I take cover, switch on my T21 rifle and duel her again, I strafe 2 her for 1780, she survives I think half of that damage was absorb by her armor, she hits me for 1890, then panic shots me for 10 sec's then hits me for 1978, armor absorbed the first shot second one took me out these were all shot accurately at me and somehow she lived and killed me.
Now I am feeling all crabby and **edit** so I get back up and walk away feeling ashamed of myself.
By the way her HAM stats were like this 900/900/900 and mine was this 800/800/1000. She beat me fair and square and I had no idea how to beat her. I have screenshots of this battle but I dont have a place post the pics at, if someone could tell me where to find one I would be happy to share these picks.
Now I am totally pist off that a pistoleer can do close to 2k points of damage in Pvp.. FWGS are incredibly powerful and I am glad that they are lowering the damge on those things. This is pissing me off why did they nerf our rifle when pistols are incredibly more powerful than ours.
Jayjon Firestorm
You have every right to be Pist off. I know I would be.
Having a pistol deliver this damage is completely unfair. Also don't forget the speed that these fire at.
You should post this in the main Forum. Let others comment about it.
that's messed up... gotta be!
/bugged armor maybe? (stranger things have happened).
i've never been pwned like that PVP. the only time i ever got hit for over a 1000 dmg was against a BH, who had a good LLC, at only about 18m, while i was neked/no armor. it has never happened since...
and with armor on - forget it, i win. if i notice anything funny in the next couple days i'll post back in this threat, Jayjon. (not that i'm the be-all-end-all expert).
also> try out a max dmg sliced /powered up Jawa against composite armor... it's like a knife through butta.
i'll see if any of my guildies/friends have 'uber' pistols right now - i have a master pistoleer guildmate, see if we can run some tests on this.
another thing, when dueling, try and suggest that you both start out of range, to simulate regular overt vs overt action. think about it - it's more fair. you get your optimal range for at least a second or two. and against pistoleers who have +125 accuracy while moving, they can run around and charge you, whatever they want. why do rifleman always have to concede the range advantage to pistoleers/carbineers in a duel?
oh well, i still rarely lose at 25m. hehe *shh* wait, no, i lose all the time. i swear!
First off they have spent quite a few points to get master pistoleer / 0040 smuggler.
I think thebit where you got hit and your armour didn't take any of the damage away is a bug. There was/is a bug where you can wear a full suit of armour and still get hit through "holes" in it, this was meant to be fixed last patch. However I've noticed I've been hit myself quite a few times through a full set of composite, so I'm guessing they havn't fixed it yet.
I'm no weaponsmith, and it would be nice if one could correct me, buta FWG5 that has 589 damage before a powerup seems a bit high even for FWG5s, this pistol could be the result of a double slice exploit. Note I'm not saying it is, but there is a possibility. (I don't even know if there really is a double slice exploit, but I've heard it mentioned.)
What have you done with the rest of your skill points?
I am a commando flamethrower and teras kasi meditate and defense for some added punch. Its funny actually because I think Last Ditch has about close to x 8 multiplier to it. It is an incredibly powerful shot and hits very hard. The only problem with Last Ditch is that if they miss, I think they suffer a 2.5x damage multiplier to the next hit attack, but I dont know about that crap.
I do have a Jawa Ion Cannon but I like I said I was using my Pre nerf damage sliced T21. It wouldnt matter what kind of defense she had on I would have still have the ability to one shot her. I know because I have one shotted people with 65% composite armor in a duel. Its an incredible amount of damage to my armor and my armor never even got hit just went straight to my heart.
I am still pist off and I won't stop being pist off and feel hatred until I bashed some other Master Gunfighter/Smuggler in the head. *tear* I just hope that I can do it, with this experience I am in a depressed state and won't leave my house in Tatooine to go hunt rebels anymore. *sniff* *tear*
Abominable-TCO wrote:
Selfyn the pistol in question had to have been using enchancers and most likely a really good Krayt tissue and High Velocity Feed Mechanism together. Even a really good krayt tissue will boost the stats up there. the best tissue I have heard of to date is a +200 something and the 155 ones appear to be getting more common as krayts are now being farmed more and more. if you couple one of those with a HVFM that has a dmg boost hitting 589 is very doable with a good slice. IMHO i have no trouble in believing that this is a legitamately crafted and sliced weapon which actually sickens me when the laser rifles struggle to get over 400 on my server and not a single WS in cluding myself is going to use krayts on those unless they are provided for us!
Thanks for the info, I checked the WS forum and found some like it as well. I was just surprised that they had gotten so high, a couple of weeks ago people wereimpressedby400 after slice + powerup.
I don't really know how to fight this combo then, I'd have to try it for myself, I'm guessing doc buffs would help a lot.
By the way the armour hole was not fixed last patch, it is fixed on TC ready for the next publish. The problem was that you can get hit on your backpack or belt(?) so the damage ignored a full set of composite, this will not happen after the patch.
In the Kauri Server, I kinda think that I am the most invincible Imperial in the game, owning Anchorhead by myself for 6 hours was great and the only thing I used was my T21 Rifle and CDEF Rifle.
So we are to disregard this statement, and only look at when you ended up being bested in combat??
Should Rifleman get Nerfed because of how well you did for 6 hours? Why shouldnt each and every person who you killed run back to their professional board screaming Nerf Rifleman because one killed them.
Your complaint, or let me rephrase that, your excuse for being killed was because of the damage of a weapon that the Dev's have already stated will be Nerfed.
I am sorry that I dont "feel" for your loss. If you can kill people for 6 hours straight and it takes one guy with amazing items to kill you, then I would hazzard the guess that Rifleman are pretty **edit** good, wouldnt you say the same?
For the sheep that just eat this kind of post up, I feel so sorry for you.
SilverLobo wrote:
For the sheep that just eat this kind of post up, I feel so sorry for you.
Uh we were trying to help the guy out. There is a lot of difference between crying nerf / whine and trying to help someone / work out how to beat a template.
I've been saying for a long time that MRM isgood in PvP.
/sigh.
go be a BH harpoon - you seem to idolize them. if YOU can't beat'em, join 'em. thenwe willproceed to beat you.
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a master BH takes 212 skill pints to get. a master rifleman takes 92. (140 if master marksman also). for them to have the ability to own in pvp seems nesecary in my opinion. if any proffession that only takes 92 skill points to go up could beat a BH (which you can if you do it right) would just seem extremely unbalanced. i hear lots of complaints of how rifleman suck and all this and how we're gimped until master and that isnt true. (except that conceal shot doesnt work in pvp which i hope will be changed) we are the ultimate hunting proffession. what other proffession can take out a 10k ham mob with out moving? yes i do feel sorry for all those addicted to PVP who ridicule our proffession for not being as good as a pistoleer who can cause 400 damage a second at barely any skill. and personally i think that the reason all these nerfs and all these "fixes" are taking place are because of all the people that complain that they just got slaughtered by someone in PVP when PVP isnt the whole game, even combat wise. if nobody PVP'd what would everyone complain about? warping mobs? i think that'd be about it. and im not meaning to slam on anyone imparticular or be harsh towards anyone.