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Thread: Rifleman/Swordsman or Rifleman/TK?

BaybeePhatt
Mon May 31, 2004 7:11 pm
#1

So, the debate is pretty much in the title. Personally, I think Rifleman/ Swordsman is better. Why? Because these are the two professions that BEST DIRECTLY attack the mind pool, the only unhealable pool in HAM. While I must give props to TKA for Force of Will, Meditation, and the fact that they just own everything in sight, Swordsman's ability to decimate mind is by far, in my opinion, superior. Being Rifleman is tough without a melee profession to back it up. That's why a lot of people pick TK or Swordsman. Well I mean its not too tough, but its definitely advantagious to have a backup profession. CH is nice, but it's not nice right now because it's so broken. So, what do all of you think?
EoZilbriss
Mon May 31, 2004 7:35 pm
#2

Hmmm...for PvP or PvE?



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BaybeePhatt
Mon May 31, 2004 7:38 pm
#3

I suppose I should've addressed that...How 'bout both? Which do YOU think is the better balanced for both PvE AND PvP, cuz no one can possibly live JUST doing PvP, you gotta build the skills first, and make money somehow (missionage) So yea, which is better overall, Rif/TK or Rif/Swordsman. I meant Rif/swordsman was better overall, but I failed to mention that in my first post. Sorry
KhaotiK7
Mon May 31, 2004 8:10 pm
#4






I am heading down the swordsman/rifleman trail. Think of this: Rifleman/Swordsman specialize in hitting the mind pool, Rifleman/TKM are just random pool hitters, tk doesnt have a definite targetted pool except the nexu grin (light mind hit). But swordsman has head hit 3 which i find extremely usefull, but any smart pvper stacks his mind higher than his primaries, lol. So if you want a definite pool hit, pick swordsman; if you want to hit mind or whatever pool seems right, pick tka. My 2 cents, flame on



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TrBuddha
Mon May 31, 2004 8:38 pm
#5

Well id go Mrifle/Mfencer/4000tka cuzzzzz that owns more then tka
Buttersjosh
Tue Jun 01, 2004 2:51 am
#6

TKA has med and power boost which are 2 great reasons plus the fact they hit very fast



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Buttersjosh
Tue Jun 01, 2004 2:53 am
#7

also as a TKM i was able to beat the living crud out of a fencer



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CodeMind
Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:09 pm
#8

I was just about to make this thread.... Good question that I need an answer to SOON.


I'm in the same situation. I need to know as well because i like both TK and Swords, but Swords i heard isnt that great in PVP. But its awesome in PVE.


TK is good in everything, but doesnt have the specificity of Swordsman and its mind hit. So.......


What do you all think is best for an even mix? Just give your opinion and why. Regardless, Im gonnago TK for Meditate line, but I need to decide which one to master. Swordsman seems like the perfect match, but TK is just sooo nice. I really dont know. Someone needs to help me and this man out. lol.
Stormbilly
Wed Jun 02, 2004 5:59 am
#9

I say try both and see which one you like more. Honestly, both are so easy to grind to master it really shouldn't be too hard to do this.
Nirtox-Dtoro
Wed Jun 02, 2004 6:20 am
#10






BaybeePhatt wrote:

So, the debate is pretty much in the title. Personally, I think Rifleman/ Swordsman is better. Why? Because these are the two professions that BEST DIRECTLY attack the mind pool, the only unhealable pool in HAM. While I must give props to TKA for Force of Will, Meditation, and the fact that they just own everything in sight, Swordsman's ability to decimate mind is by far, in my opinion, superior. Being Rifleman is tough without a melee profession to back it up. That's why a lot of people pick TK or Swordsman. Well I mean its not too tough, but its definitely advantagious to have a backup profession. CH is nice, but it's not nice right now because it's so broken. So, what do all of you think?






Remember one thing Mind is healable by a Combat medic, he heals around 1100 mind dmg, every second or so ...


Best PvP class : Master Rifleman - Fencer 4030 - Doctor 4000 ( My Opinion )


Let me explain ...


Fencer 4030 - Will max out your : Ranged Defence - Your Melee Defence is allmost maxed out aswell .. Now you also have Melee Mitigation 2, wich stacks with Ranged Mitigation 3 ... U will be allmost impossible to get down ..


Now for the Doctor, those evil combat medics , wont stand a chance .. U got Cure poisen and Cure disease, this is great cause If u hunt Jantas on Dantoiine and get yourself some JANTA BLOOD, u can make some awsome Cure Poisen/Disease packs.. Get a Good doctor who allrdy makes great buffs etc. let him make em for you with low enough medic use, so u can use em ...


This class, will make you very powerfull in PvP aswell for PvE



If u never do PvP , Just go Rifleman/Swordman as above, it rocks ... Swordman For Nightsisters, Rifleman for everything


Just my 2 cents



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Knunchucksammy
Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:07 am
#11

umm I like my new template:

M Rifleman M Teras Kasi Pistoleer 0044 Smuggler 4000 (I have the smuggler because I have to keep it to run a faction buying macro for my guild, so I did what I could. BUT look at these numbers)

Defense Vs KD: 70
Defense Vs Dizzy: 60
Melee Defense: 135
Ranged Defense: 125 (somewhere around there)

Plus it gives you Ranged Mitigation 3 and Melee Mitigation 3, with TKA Meditation, powerboost, Force of Will, and with the smuggler I can still make a bit of money



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bstbone
Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:57 am
#12

Hi all, I have played SWg since game launch, and I am (arguably) the best PVPer on my server. My build is Master Rifleman, Master TK, and pikeman 0-0-4-4, along with novice medic of course. With this combination I can solo the geonosian caves (including Acklay), and consistently defeat anyone in PVP. I have the pikeman because the pikeman block stacks with rifleman block, so I hit the cap at +125, and also because I can use the uber nightsister lances for PVP DOTs, I have a great mind poison lance. The TK is just invulnerable - I can powerboost if buffs are unavailable, and force of will has saved my butt many many times in PVP. Plus, with the current plague of combat medics in PVP, I can cure my own poison and disease with meditation, an absolute must for PVP.


Make sure you get a rifle speed attachment, at least +6 speed - this will allow you to shoot any gun any special move at 1.0 speed, the speed cap for the game.


As for swordsman doing mind damage in PVP versus TK damage - all I can say is that any melee damage is currently meaningless. This is due to the abundance of composite armour in PVP, with 80%+ kinetic resistance, along with doctor buffs. The best PVP damage that a melee person can do is as a fencer with a stun baton, and that still sux, the stun batons have no armour peircing, and an uber acklay stun baton has only around 330 max damage, with a powerup. Fencers do not have a head shot - so if a person has a stun-resistant armour, even with an uber stun baton, they will only do around 120 per hit, spread randomly between the health, action, and mind pools.


The only consistently feasable weapon for PVP, other that those available to a combat medic, is a jawa ion rifle. These do stun damage, and have armour peircing, so even against someone with an awesome 35% resist stun helmet you dan still kill them fast. A good jawa ion rifle will have around 410 max damage (with a powerup), and even against an opponent with an uber stun helmet you can still do around 300 a hit all to mind, at 1.0 speed.


For PVE, a T21 or a DXR-6B acid rifle are the best weapons. I can use strafe shot2 on groups of stormtroopers, and do3500 a hitsimultanesoulsy to10 stormtroopers, at 1.0 speed - they are all dead in 3 to 4 seconds. Teras Kasai, swordsman, fencer - they are all good for PVE, but nothing can hold up to the damage of strafeshot 2, with a T21's damage and heavy armour peircing.



With my build, I have ranged damage mitigation 3, melee damage mitigation 3, I can do unarmed KD+dizzy in one hit, I can mind poison with my nightsister lance, my ranged defense,melee defense, and block are all capped at 125, and I have access to devastatingspecials like master headshot and strafeshot2, along with the best PVP weapon in the game, the jawa ion rifle. I can heal my own wounds, and powerboost myslef if buffs are not available. And, I can cure myself if I get poisoned or diseased, and use force of will if things go badly.



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Nirtox-Dtoro
Wed Jun 02, 2004 8:38 am
#13

Ajax ..


U say that your the best PvPer on your server, i don´t doubt that ..

But ibet that if u meet a skilled combat medic 1v1 ..


Let´s Say MRM/MCM - U will die eventually ... On my server Chimarra we have 1400 tick poisen, we stack the **edit** on ppl and they die withhin 10 to 20 seconds ...

Of course if u allways hunt with a Nice Doctor your might have a chance ... But seriosly, u need Doc else your dead meat , cause CMs are very powerfull ..


just wanted to hear how u do it, since you think your the best pvper plz explain hehe






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