Ranger Archive

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sherriffjustice wrote:

I preface this by saying I have no idea how this system works. What do you think will be the most advantagous force skill to develope with ranger? How does this new system work? Do we get to attain certain force skills, or do you need to be a padawan to access those skills?

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LOL any fighting skills

I don't have much of an idea myself either. I have been waiting for a quest based or other non-profession grind system to be in place before I spent much energy on what is going on with Jedi.

I plan on picking up the scout bonuses, medic bonuses, attack and defense bonuses.

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sherriffjustice wrote:

I plan on picking up the scout bonuses, medic bonuses, attack and defense bonuses.

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How do you get those skills, is there a prerequisite and how many skill points do they cost? Thanks in advance

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DItto, except I plan on getting the ranged speed and accuracy (and maybe melee) and the vehicle control skill.

WhenI tried the FS stuff on test, the 'novice FS' skill box costs 0 points (and give nothing to the player) all subsequent FS skill in that tree cost 1 point a piece and add minor, but helpful, mods. For example, the FS Scout skills basically give +5 to all of our skills spread out over the tree.

Ok...

From rumors, speculation and general notes ive read....

The quests will give you access to force sensitivity (rumor: ive heard its profession specific) Once you gain force sensitivity, there are several aspects to that.

Crafting
This will include + to experimentation, surveying, and luck
Hunting
Will modifiers to vehicles, + to harvesting/ camping/ trapping
Weapons
+ melee/ ranged accuracy, speed, damage
Protection
+melee/ ranged defenses etc/ healing bonuses

The "novice" force sensitive block wont cost points (as far as ive seen) but each box above the novice box will be 1 point.

So,
Master Ranger/ Master Combat leaves you with 18 points left over (giving novice medic +1) gaining force sensitivity in medic skills will allow you to use stim B's with only 1 or 2 points invested in it.

The scouting tree will increase your harvests (not much else as camping/ traps are kinda weak) and for the 4 boxes, it will be a total of 4 skill points.

then add defense/ offense skills as needed.

Alright...

I have just talked to a few people about this.

Without novice medic, the bonuses in the FS lines to medic dont apply.
Without novice scout, and the ability to /harvest the jedi cannot harvest.

So far, this is what ive been told by 4 or 5 jedi

how does everyone else feel about this "everyone can have a little FS" idea? I've been hearing a lot about it lately, and I'm beginning to think it won't be a good idea in the long run. Basically what I'm understanding is that provided you do a few quests, every character in the game can have force abilities to one degree or another. Does this make sense with the continuity of the movies and books? I don't really think so. There are already too many jedi around considering the timeline we are supposed to be in (remember how there were really only 2 jedi and 2 sith?), and it seems like making every player force sensitive, while perhaps giving the majority what they want, makes the game seriously traitorous to the vision of the star wars universe as set forth by lucas, the movies, and the books.

Perhaps traitorous is a bit too strong a word for it, but I'm sure you guys see what I'm getting at.

I like the FS idea. That's what most, well, force-sensitive, people were at this point. Force users, not Jedi, since the order is all but extinct.

As Master Ranger | Master 'Combat' however, there's not much in it for us. We have to give up novice medic to get enough points to spend for it to be worthwhile. Well, I guess Riflemen don't care much about self-healing but everyone else will want some healing ability, especially when the CB hits.

This will just increase the gap between Ranger|Combat and Scout|Combat players. Unless they put some firepower in Ranger so we aren't forced to pick up a combat profession, we get the short end, again.

The "Ranger/Scout" FS skills aren't that great to begin with either. + to trapping? camping? camo? + creature harvest for instance will just decrease the value we get from veghash and harvest droids even more. For a lousy increase in our harvest we give up precious skill-points. You can always get more veghash and droid batteries, skill-points however, they aren't for sale on vendors. As always, the ones who get the least out of it, well, that's us.

I'm tempted to drop Ranger and use the points in FS skills. Luck, Ranged Accuracy, Defenses... lots of goodies in there. Seems like a no-brainer to drop more or less useless Ranger boxes to get them.

that's exactly my point. yeah there were probably lots of force sensitive in the galaxy, but we've just opened the door for EVERYONE to be force sensitive. Plus say if I can get an equal amount of skil mods for whatever, say, harvesting, out of 2-3 FS skillboxes costing 2-3 skill points versus 2-3 blocks of ranger, costing roughly 5-6 points.... what's the point of having anything over novice or the first couple blocks when you can simply be force sensitive and get it cheaper? It just doesn't add up to me....