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Thread: NO To the Ranger Hat
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Rolfie
Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:41 pm
#1
I have been reading this board for over a year now and I keep seeing this stupid ideal for a Ranger Hat coming up.
YES that is my opinion of the Ranger Hat its stupid eye candy nothing more.
Instead of some lame arse hat give us the Ghillie suit instead.
Have it made by Tailors using Synthetic Cloth and RFPso the suit can be created using BE tissues.
Yea I am greedy I want mutiple BE tissues required so we can get a suit with the max Mods that be placed in the article of clothing.
That way we can get a functional item to wear while hunting that can be heavily modified by a Bio Engineer and Created by a Tailor.
The following have values of +1 to +10 (except melee defense which is +1 to +2)
Constrictor Cloth (Bleed Defense)
Myoflex (Music Wound Healing)
Confidence Cloth (Warcry/Intimidate)
Visual Camouflage (cover)
Scent Camouflage (mask scent/ranger cammo)
Passive Tranquilizers (creature taming)
Toughened Fibers (stun defense/melee defense)
"Advanced" Tissues:
The following have values of +10 to +20 (except melee defense which is +2 to +4)
Coaguland Agents (bleed defense)
Scent Neutralization (mask scent/ranger cammo)
Active Tranquilizers (creature taming)
Mimetic Circuitry (cover)
Tensile Resistance (stun defense/melee defense)
Fear Release (warcry/intimidate)
Then we would have a article of clothing that can be worn by all by only a Ranger can employ his Camo Kits or Mask Scent Mods to get the biggest benefit out of wearing this suit.
So don't give me some stupid looking Indiana Jones fedora give me a Ghillie suit whcih will look alot cooler and have some function while hunting.
Look at the options already in the game for BE's and Tailors and build on them. Use what we have already.
If this were implemented in a fashion of the hooded Robe or cloak the art work is further simplified. then you have a Walking bush with possibly a backpack showing for art work. Hair styles and, horns, and mowhawks don't matter then no will see them anyhow.
CherryPicker
Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:50 pm
#2
Wouldn't such a thing be more for riflemen, since thery're supposed to be th snipers of swg?Just my thought...
Rolfie
Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:11 pm
#3
The basic ideal of the ghillie suit would be for an article of clothing that can compilement any type of Ranger.
By building on what is already in the game.
The suit is made using 1+1 synthetic Cloth and 1+1 RFP in order to gain the maximum bonus to the modification.
ARanger could commission a Ghillie suit to his or her needs.
To carry the ideal further a limited use schematic could have Ranger or Scout specific Mods to it. I just don't see that as being necessary.
The suit maintains broad appeal to any hunter in the game but a Scout would get more from the suit than a non scout and a Ranger would get more than a Scout.
Right now not many people use camouflage favoring Mask Scent.
I would propose a change to the Camouflage skill, Instead of a different kit being made available at each level. Make all the kits available at Novice Ranger.
As the Ranger progresses through the tree the ability to camouflage increases instead of the current all or nothing.
Since Riflemen are getting the ability to be removed from radar via cover.
The Camouflage linewould be modified along the same lines.
It should stack with Mask Scent and the New Cover ability. It should enhance both not be an either or item.
So Masking Scent, and camouflage would build and stack. Wearing the suit would increase the ability further.
At Master Ranger the ability to walk around mask scented, camouflaged, and under cover would be granted.
That ability in itself would provide a first strike ability to a Ranged or Melee Rangerand makethe Master Ranger the pre-eminentbattlefield modifier.
Key word is modifier
DaveG
Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:15 pm
#4
Well, I'm neutral on this subject. Since I'm a wookiee, I wouldn't be able to wear it if it existed anyway.
Yeah,I could make a new toon, and be humuan, but I figure, I'm hairy in real life, might aswell be hairy in the game too 
SickSix
Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:26 pm
#5
Rolfie wrote:
I have been reading this board for over a year now and I keep seeing this stupid ideal for a Ranger Hat coming up.
YES that is my opinion of the Ranger Hat its stupid eye candy nothing more.
Instead of some lame arse hat give us the Ghillie suit instead.
who piddled in your bantha flakes?
we already know they can do stealth man, so the ghillie suit would merely be eyecandy too. just give us stealth like Rifleman AND Jedi have now.
I"m all for the Hat, and i was all for visual cammo. but since we already know how they will implement stealth, i just want that.
Phenix1050
Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:12 pm
#6
my lord. the largest and funniest joke thread on this forum became flamebait for somebody.
the hat is just a FUN idea, nothing more.
agent156
Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:58 am
#7
Your mother was a lesser womp rat and your father smelled of vasserian brandy.
Badgewick
Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:10 am
#8
DaveG wrote:
Well, I'm neutral on this subject. Since I'm a wookiee, I wouldn't be able to wear it if it existed anyway.
Yeah,I could make a new toon, and be humuan, but I figure, I'm hairy in real life, might aswell be hairy in the game too
Ditto....only I'm not that hairy...just REALLY tall.
Rolfie
Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:38 am
#9
There is already clothing in game for wookies so creating an additionalspecific item called a ghillie suit should not be a problem.
As for the eye candy comments. Only a sunguard can be made from BE tissues and I am not going to wear that hat while hunting.
If I didn't see this ranger hat come in proposals maybe I would not think the poster was serious.
Even yesterday a long time Veteran to these boards had to ask is this a joke?
I simply want to see the skills presently in the Ranger subset fixed or improved not replaced.
If camouflage stacked with Mask Scent and the new Riflemen Cover skill. I would be happy. To make the skill more Ranger centric give the Ranger the ability to walk around while under camouflage. That way whether ranged or melee the ranger gains freedom of manuever.
So when a Ranger Camouflaged up for a specific planet he\she would be under cover while camouflage and mask scent was in effect.
Again the ghillie suit was an ideal that is functional and improves skills we already have. You can create a ghillie suit now if you know a BE and Tailor.
My shambling mound ghillie suit eye candy at least would have had function for any species.
I want to look like a hunter not pimp around a star port looking like Indiana Jones.
BioEngine
Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:42 am
#10
Um, I have a Camo Duster and Camo Pants, each with: +14 to (Camouflage, Mask Scent, Taming Vicious Creatures, Taming Wild Creatures) and those were just the BE components. I have put bonuses to Rescue on them, I think a +3 and +4, and I have a belt with +7 to rescue and +4 to camo. Out of all of my camouflage bonuses, I have +32 in mods alone hehe.
And that's good enough for me, considering I've saved them from destruction for 2 months 
. Darn death penalties.
Rabideko
Rolfie
Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:15 am
#12
I have done the same with my clothing.
Something to be aware of +25 is as high as the mods will stack from clothing so buying and wearing items totaling any higher gains you nothing.
As for tapes stacking with the BE'ed clothing not sure but I think the +25 is the maximum limit including sea's.
BioEngine
Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:17 am
#13
Rolfie wrote:
I have done the same with my clothing.
Something to be aware of +25 is as high as the mods will stack from clothing so buying and wearing items totaling any higher gains you nothing.
As for tapes stacking with the BE'ed clothing not sure but I think the +25 is the maximum limit including sea's.
I equipped my Camo-enhancing clothes and I saw +32 in mods "stick" in my skill window, under "skill modifiers." I think it was +86/+118.
Also, we have a better chance of getting a hat than a suit of modifies armor/clothing.
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