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Thread: Why do we get battle armor from the combat upgrade?
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BioEngine
Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:53 pm
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*Update: I just got off of a 3 day forum ban. Not gonna say why. It was a torture seeing all of the struggles you guys were going through, and I knew I needed to remove all caps hehe. I'll be responding to the good stuff today, and I guess I'll hold off on the Aggro list until after the CU.
Just read this, folks. Looks like we're involved in the CU after all! I snippeted this from the Bloodfin Forums.
Why we don't get the better resists to kinetic? Hm, oh well. I'm sure there's a way to make the kinetic resists a little better with the right crafting work. We'll just have to wait.
Arialias wrote:
Ok we have all heard that certain profession can wear certain types of armor. And that there was soing to be 3 total classes of armor. Well on the armor forums they just posted the complete list of who gets what.
They also posted some information reguarding Mandolorian and RIS armor. I would sugest that anyone who is getting this stuff crafted now wait. For the Mando armor. people will have to go see the RIS quest guy. And trade in there armor. They will ge given a single use schem to use and that can be made into the appropriate level armor that you would need..
I also know that a lot of people have mods in certain armor pieces. If comp armor is what you have mods in . You will still be able to use it. But you will be hindred so much that you will more than likely decide not to wear it. Even if is is only 1 piece it will default the entier suit to the highest lvl armor that is worn.
Reconnaissance Armor
Ubese, Tantel, Mabari, Kashyyykian Ceremonial, Ithorian Guardian, Marine Rebel (Factional), Scout Trooper (Factional)
Certified to use it: Bio Engineer, Pistoleer, Rifleman, Smuggler
Battle Armor
Padded, Marauder, Bone, Kashyyykian Black Mountain, Ithorian Defender, RIS (Quest), Rebel Battle (Factional), Stormtrooper (Factional)
Certified to use it: Carbineer, Creature Handler, Combat Medic, Fencer, Doctor, Swordsman, Pikeman, Ranger
AssaultArmor
Chitin, Composite, Kashyyykian Hunting, Ithorian Sentinel, Mandalorian (Quest), Rebel Assault (Factional), Shock Trooper (Factional)
Certified to use it: Bounty Hunter, Commando, Squad leader
Message Edited by BioEngine on 04-01-2005 02:25 PM
Message Edited by BioEngine on 04-06-2005 11:01 AM
Deadtech
Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:41 pm
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Damn, now I have to be a rifleman or pistoleerto wear scout armor. I wanted my pikeman to wear it. Oh well. Stupid me and wanting to RP.
Owelo
Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:01 pm
#3
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Were any of you in danger of actually using the Mando armor? We were given the Cert as a 'bone' and now it's gone...no biggie.
Actually i was in the process of having a set made and have a few pieces. This was not easy and definatly not cheap, and i will flip if i can't use it after the upgrade.
Calculus_Entropy
Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:08 pm
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Owelo wrote:
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Were any of you in danger of actually using the Mando armor? We were given the Cert as a 'bone' and now it's gone...no biggie.
Actually i was in the process of having a set made and have a few pieces. This was not easy and definatly not cheap, and i will flip if i can't use it after the upgrade.
DOH! Ok, were 2 of you in danger of wearing Mando armor?
You can still master a combat profession that gets the Mando cert (but, that's not the point, is it?).
Chewtharra
Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:26 pm
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I think its sucks that as a ranger/swordsman I can't wear comp anymore. Hopefully the prices of RIS will become more reasonable since only a handful of professions will be able to wear it.
Calculus_Entropy
Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:29 pm
#6
Chewtharra wrote:I think its sucks that as a ranger/swordsman I can't wear comp anymore. Hopefully the prices of RIS will become more reasonable since only a handful of professions will be able to wear it.
Remember that all armor can have the same stats now (well, within the same armor type). The skin is just the look. In other words, there can be Uber Bone Armor now.
lootranger
Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:47 pm
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"You can still master a combat profession that gets the Mando cert (but, that's not the point, is it?)."
dont know how to quote
This should actually say you can master one combat prof that gets Mando cert (boutny hunter) Commando is not possible to master along with Ranger and you would just spin in circle with Squad Leader....too many skill points with Commando. Mando aside, that class of armor offers the best resists to kinetice damage. Which IMHO benefits us Rangers the most.
But, the point in Mando is that, like you said, it was a bone for us from the Devs. We haven't gotten much in the year I've been around. Now something cool that we got gets taken away from us.
LangaNor
Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:05 pm
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here's something that I thought we may take comfort in:
"3. What defensive options will pure non-combat players have at their disposal?
Personal Shield Generators will be available and can be used by any profession, both combat and non-combat related. They are meant to give you a reasonable amount of protection for a short period of time. You can get personal shield generators from your friendly local Armorsmiths."
we'll have an armor certification, that's already been confirmed, but the poor artisans, entertainers, etc... will be left outside the combat loop, unless they choose to get a combat prof of course. so an armorsmith/architect will probably not have access to armor... I don't know that this will sit well with those classes. PLUS, i think the PSGs are only for energy weapons and not functional for kinetic (melee) attacks... I hope a poor artisan doesn't get rushed by a spineflap, or they're toast!
So on the bright side, WE HAVE ARMOR CERTIFICATION which kinda tells me that we're in for a combat role later on.
"3. What defensive options will pure non-combat players have at their disposal?
Personal Shield Generators will be available and can be used by any profession, both combat and non-combat related. They are meant to give you a reasonable amount of protection for a short period of time. You can get personal shield generators from your friendly local Armorsmiths."
we'll have an armor certification, that's already been confirmed, but the poor artisans, entertainers, etc... will be left outside the combat loop, unless they choose to get a combat prof of course. so an armorsmith/architect will probably not have access to armor... I don't know that this will sit well with those classes. PLUS, i think the PSGs are only for energy weapons and not functional for kinetic (melee) attacks... I hope a poor artisan doesn't get rushed by a spineflap, or they're toast!
So on the bright side, WE HAVE ARMOR CERTIFICATION which kinda tells me that we're in for a combat role later on.
Message Edited by LangaNor on 04-01-2005 03:06 PM
lootranger
Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:22 pm
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Recon? Recon armor has a penalty to kinetic damage.
None - Provides no additional damage mitigation
Reconnaissance Armor receives a nominal bonus to energy protection and a nominal penalty to kinetic damage protection. This can be conceptualized as a free energy layer.
Battle Armor has an even protection against all damage types - no modifiers at all.
Assault Armor receives a nominal bonus to kinetic protection and a nominal penalty to energy damage protection. This can be conceptualized as a free kinetic layer.
Calculus_Entropy
Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:23 pm
#11
Under the new system, armor will be divided into four categories: None, Reconnaissance, Battle, and Assault . Each category has its unique damage protection.
- None - Provides no additional damage mitigation
- Reconnaissance Armor receives a nominal bonus to energy protection and a nominal penalty to kinetic damage protection. This can be conceptualized as a free energy layer.
- Battle Armor has an even protection against all damage types - no modifiers at all.
- Assault Armor receives a nominal bonus to kinetic protection and a nominal penalty to energy damage protection. This can be conceptualized as a free kinetic layer.
FYI...copied from the Offical (public) CU Armor Document. This explains why don't really want Recon Armor.
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