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Thread: SOE Can't See the Forest for the Trees

Goldear
Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:39 am
#1


So...is what I am hearing is correct? the p-dart has been "fixed" rofl.

OMG....the whole of traps needed to be fixed ladies and gentlemen!!!??

( /sarcasm...what?? did the jedi complain that a Master Ranger can take down a krayt alone and they can't????)


They are not reading our forums!!!!


What about the camo problems?


What about the camp problems, ok not problems..why do we have them?


Why do we have 'rescue" skill/feature?


How come scouts/bh can outharvest us?


Why do we have a forage skill that harvests nothing? maybe it does now I haven't used it in a year or more.


How come we have to sink so much into a profession with no gains? (Most of us i think like the fact that we spend a lot on sp's to be a master ranger, I'm starting to believe after 2 years that I'm wasting my time, thinking they will make us something "special" for those sp efforts.)


The only skill Rangers have that works without problem..is climbing hills and mountians. doh!


come on Dev's talk to us!!!Tell us what you are doing for us? Tell us you are doing nothing...ranger is what it is. But just bloody talk tous!!

Tell us why we spend so much on sp's to be a Master Ranger and youdo nothing to help the profession? Justify it for us. Don't change..just make it worth while.

I'm standing up and being counted...I'm tired of Jedi getting mods. Master Rangers want something back. I've spent about $500 since I've started SWG two years ago. That is my hard earned money, I want some answers.

Message Edited by Goldear on 07-07-2005 11:42 AM



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Aeschyl
Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:54 am
#2

well said
Fodder650
Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:54 am
#3

Flame me if you want. But the P-dart issue was gamebreaking. Its why we are a FOTM profession right now. Remove the P-dart from our box of tricks and watch all the respec rangers run for the hills.



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Fodder650
Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:26 pm
#4

Greenmarine mentioned that he thought a fix was going into pub20 for the rest of the traps. We need to send in someone to test them.

So Iseult you tested the P-Dart care to test the rest?



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Almagill
Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:43 pm
#5



Fodder650 wrote:
Greenmarine mentioned that he thought a fix was going into pub20 for the rest of the traps. We need to send in someone to test them.

So Iseult you tested the P-Dart care to test the rest?




Already been in and done them on TC-Prime. No noticable changes other than to P-darts. The rest still work as well as before.

Also, unless there's been a hotfix in the past 4 hours, no changes as to how trapping XP was to be calculated, also indicated as a P20 issue by GM in that same thread.

TC-Bloodfin toon is still an ubernewb with minimal skills. Not grinding him up much more than already have as am needed elsewhere.



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Novatic
Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:57 pm
#6

Sad, but true.



Woah, nothing good to see here people, meh don't have an ubar, colorfull pwn sig. Just move along.
TomedNor
Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:25 pm
#7



Fodder650 wrote:
Flame me if you want. But the P-dart issue was gamebreaking. Its why we are a FOTM profession right now. Remove the P-dart from our box of tricks and watch all the respec rangers run for the hills.




No, sadly they'll whine and complain.



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SickSix
Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:35 pm
#8

FOR GOD'S SAKE GET OFF THE F'ING PDART!!!!



We know it it needed fixing. you people that keep saying "the pdart was an exploit and needed to be fixed"......



thank you captain obvious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


you want a medal?


It's about rangers being IGNORED when we have a much more severe GAME BREAKING problem..... TRAPPING XP! and not to mention the fact that the ONLY 'WORKING AS INTENED' skill we have is F'ing terrain negotiation!


The only reason we got 'attention' is because we had a skill that was bugged AND PISSING EVERYONE ELSE OFF! (except us, we knew it needed fixing, but we werent pissed about it).


but nothing in our proffession has been fixed that WE are pissed about. how many publishes past the CU are we going to be once 20 hits live? 4, 5?



i dont mean to personally insult any fellow rangers, but, would you please get off the dammed pdar issue and start adressing the REAL issues here.



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TomedNor
Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:51 pm
#9



SickSix wrote:
FOR GOD'S SAKE GET OFF THE F'ING PDART!!!!
We know it it needed fixing. you people that keep saying "the pdart was an exploit and needed to be fixed"......
thank you captain obvious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you want a medal?
It's about rangers being IGNORED when we have a much more severe GAME BREAKING problem..... TRAPPING XP! and not to mention the fact that the ONLY 'WORKING AS INTENED' skill we have is F'ing terrain negotiation!
The only reason we got 'attention' is because we had a skill that was bugged AND PISSING EVERYONE ELSE OFF! (except us, we knew it needed fixing, but we werent pissed about it).
but nothing in our proffession has been fixed that WE are pissed about. how many publishes past the CU are we going to be once 20 hits live? 4, 5?
i dont mean to personally insult any fellow rangers, but, would you please get off the dammed pdar issue and start adressing the REAL issues here.





Hmm, lets see, find the important part... ah heck, I'll just QFE the whole post.



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Goldear
Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:24 pm
#10


Sicksix is correct. I am refusing to pat any dev on the back these days for "fixing" something. I play in profession that is almost totally borked. They(Dev's) refuse to acknowledge it, or fix it, unless it impinges on other professions.

Ihave paid them $500 in the last two years...I want to know why Ranger is not fixed yet? simple. I gave them my money to play a game theypromised me/us time after time thatRangerwould be fixed. Still not fixed. Soon I am going to start asking for my money back.

In other parts of life when someone promises me a product and doesn't deliver, I get my moneyback. Why not here?

I am sick and tired of waiting patiently. We have been patient, two years is long enough to fix a problem. We need to protest via the only avenue SOE will give us, these forums. I am not stopping my protest.


I am going to be polite, sarcastic,vocal and persistant. But I will not be insulting to them.

Message Edited by Goldear on 07-07-2005 03:27 PM



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Webber
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Tatooine
BioEngine
Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:31 pm
#11

The only reason we have the CL increase is because we had to make as loud of a noise as the Jedi about it on every thread we could.



That was never enough, that was only what we thought we could get.



You people need to stop "settling for less." Who here thinks that another profession has more aspects of it that are borked / broken? Hrm? And yes, I do mean combat profession. Which includes combat and combat supportive. We were pushed outside of the scope of the CU, then pushed further back by these publishes. Which professions were to receive several little additions / fixes? Smuggler / Ranger / Squad Leader? Well, where is any of that in this publish? Hrm? They aren't even working on our profession. They probably couldn't find anyone in their staff willing to test the trapping problem, so one guy stated what they were going to try to do and just didn't try hard enough to complete.





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QuietBlade
Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:32 pm
#12

I can agree with sicksix that they need to fix our darts.....but is that all they plan on doing for us?.....fixing the one thing that makes a broken prof work even halfway decent>?....I heard they were going to fix ad mesh at the samtime....what happened to that?.....Owen, I know that you do not know all the DEVs are doing, but what happened to fixing admesh and Phec darts at the same time?......If we make money on harvesting, why can scouts and BHs out harvest us?.....currently the only source of income we have is through selling tissues and pearls that we get while using a bugged trap. Just my opinion.



Devs....one way or the other......please tell us WHAT IS GOING ON.....






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Serraphin
Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:49 pm
#13







QuietBlade wrote:

I can agree with sicksix that they need to fix our darts.....but is that all they plan on doing for us?.....fixing the one thing that makes a broken prof work even halfway decent>?....I heard they were going to fix ad mesh at the samtime....what happened to that?.....Owen, I know that you do not know all the DEVs are doing, but what happened to fixing admesh and Phec darts at the same time?......If we make money on harvesting, why can scouts and BHs out harvest us?.....currently the only source of income we have is through selling tissues and pearls that we get while using a bugged trap. Just my opinion.



Devs....one way or the other......please tell us WHAT IS GOING ON.....






A combat stacker can out harvest us solo hunting,in some circumstances over time because they can kill faster than us. I agree with you in that. However, in group hunting NO one person will out hravest a Master Ranger ever. In fact it may even take several party members to even contribute as much as the Master Ranger does in that regards. I participated in a full 8 toon hunting group on Lok this week and I received 928-938 hide from every Gurk we killed without the use of food. While I admit I did not add much firepower to the group with 7 other people I did not need to. But I more than made up for my slot in the group via the harvesting mod to the group and my personal stack of hide which had I been able to play the full duration with the hunting group would have easily dwarfed any none Rangers stack of hide. So in solo play yes we are not the supreme hunters but in group play we more than make up for our slot if the group is looking to maximize their harvest. In my case the entire group was working to benefit one person so we did quite well.

Message Edited by Serraphin on 07-07-2005 03:50 PM

Message Edited by Serraphin on 07-07-2005 03:50 PM

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